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To: angryoldfatman
angryoldfatman: "Non-overlapping magisteria."

I wondered what that was all about, never saw the term before, though have read some of Gould's work.

Gould introduced at least one other theory which is today seen as "not quite right", namely punctuated equilibria.
What's "not quite right" about it is Gould's claim that species remain unchanged for long periods of time, before undergoing rapid evolution in times of turmoil, so to speak.

We now know that evolutionarily speaking, there is no period of "stasis", that both descent with modifications and natural selection happen in every generation, with the accumulating results that over long periods of time, species which can appear similar in the fossil record are not necessarily closely related enough to interbreed.

In other words, it's not what happens on the outside which creates new species, but rather, what happen within a population's DNA which makes them more, or less, incapable of interbreeding.

NOMA -- Non-overlapping Magisteria, I would put in that same category -- nice try, but not quite right.
What's wrong with it is that the Bible claims, and Judeo-Christianity teaches, that there is not only plenty of "overlap" between natural & Supernatural realms, but also that Supernatural God created, controls, rules over, and on occasion, overrules the natural realm.
So it's not a "live and let live" religion, rather, we believe Supernatural God rules the natural realm, according to His plan and will.

Of course, as an atheist, Gould naturally wished for free reign to explain nature without reference to the Divine.
Understandable, but, not going to happen.

angryoldfatman: "Like I need advice from a half-assed Christian, who exemplifies all of the hypocrisy atheists like myself point out and ridicule."

Your pose is busted, old man.
It's all fake, you're a fraud, you pose this way, pose that way, always posing, always angry, never truthful, never humble.

So, you are not just self-declared "angry", "old" and "fat", you are also sick in the head, FRiend, and you need to get that straightened out.
Learn to be truthful, learn to be humble, learn to use questions instead of accusations, and most important, begin by losing some weight.
You'll feel better, you'll love life and life will love you, so you won't need to pose or babble nonsense on Free Republic threads.


66 posted on 02/22/2016 3:32:45 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: BroJoeK

“Non-overlapping magisteria.”
I wondered what that was all about, never saw the term before, though have read some of Gould’s work.

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AAAAAAAAAAAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAAAHAHA!!

Damn son, you are so ignorant and yet puffing your chest out with PRIDE (isn’t that a sin?) in your knowledge.

I know more than you!

If you had that “humble” approach instead of being an a-hole to any and everybody disagrees with you (in other words, be more supposdely Christian), we could have had a pleasant and mutually educational exchange.

Oh well. Prideful ignorance is bliss.

Now, you say Gould (and Niles Eldredge) got evolution wrong by coming up with punctuated equilibrium.

Who (besides a demonstrably ignorant layman like yourself) says? What evidence did they use to refute punctuated equilibrium? Because you realize that both (two!) scientists you implied were wrong had evidentiary bases for the hypothesis, whereas you have nothing.


67 posted on 02/22/2016 3:06:15 PM PST by angryoldfatman
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To: BroJoeK

Quote for the day:

Education [in regards to evolution] is a subversive activity that is implicitly in place in order to counter the prevailing culture. And the prevailing culture in the case of Campbell’s school, and many other schools in the country, is a deeply conservative religious culture. - Bora Zivkovic (aka Coturnix of Science Blogs)


68 posted on 02/22/2016 3:09:24 PM PST by angryoldfatman
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