Posted on 02/05/2016 11:33:35 AM PST by Enlightened1
Another troll
And another unenlightened response from you... (no sarcasm)
So stating an opinion is now being a Troll.
I’m sorry if you can’t defend it.
Petitioner [Miller], having been born outside United States territory, can only become a citizen by naturalization under congressional authority. ...Petitioner, having been born outside the territory of the United States, is an alien as far as the Constitution is concerned, and "can only become a citizen by being naturalized, either by treaty, as in the case of the annexation of foreign territory; or by authority of Congress." ... If there is no congressional enactment granting petitioner citizenship, she remains an alien.
Thus Ted Cruz is a natural born citizen.
Charles, it takes two conditions of birth to make a Natural Born Citizen of ANY country. Those are:
1) Born on the soil of the country.
2) Both parents are citizens of the country.
Yes, Ted can rightfully claim U.S. citizenship, but the Framers put in place a much stricter standard of citizenship for U.S. presidents. They must be born to our land, and of our people. Plain and simple.
Ted does not meet that test, therefore, is not qualified to be President. Neither was Obama, but no one stopped him from usurping the office. Doesn't make it ok for us to violate the Constitution in the same way, just because we like a certain politician.
I posted the actual text of the law above. Did you read it? It's actually pretty clear.
One US citizen parent, resident in the US for FIVE years.
If not physically resident in the US, because they (or their parent with whom they lived as a dependent) was abroad in the diplomatic or military service of the US, or working for e.g., the UN, then those years can still be counted toward the residency requirement.
This is not rocket science. If Sally Brown is a US citizen and has resided in the US for 5 or more years, she can confer citizenship to her child according to the law. If she hasn't resided in the US for 5 or more years because she was living with her Dad who was the US ambassador to Outer Slobovia, her years in Outer Slobovia can still count toward her 5 years of residency.
Why is this so hard to understand???
some people are making the claim that any kind of citizenship which involves a ‘statute’ means the person is naturalized, but this simply isn’t true- congress was given power to make laws regarding naturalizing aliens, but it was also given the power to define who doesn’t need to be naturalized as well- and based on the laws of common descent/natural law, they determined that because citizenship passes from a sovereign citizen to their child, that one parent sovereign us citizen is enough for this natural law to apply, with some exceptions, mainly having to do with the child establishing a bond with the us citizen parent- this is why we see the exception of 1409 which was a law regarding unwed parents, and where a father had to meet certain requirements in order to basically prove a dna connection and or bond with the child-
While a child is a minor, their allegiance is the same as their parent’s it descends from their parent- when the child comes of age, they can choose their own allegiance (expatriate themselves through a process) if they so choose to or remain a US citizen, but until then their allegiance is that of their us sovereign parent
Some folks make the claim that if a person has to apply for a CRBA in order to travel out of the country, then they can’t be a citizen- and must be naturalized- however that is not what the usicis site says on the matter- they state
[[ D. Application for Certificate of Citizenship (Form N-600)
A person born abroad who acquires U.S. citizenship at birth is not required to file an Application for Certificate of Citizenship (Form N-600). A person who seeks documentation of such status, however, must submit an application to obtain a Certificate of Citizenship from USCIS.]]
It further states that just because someone doesn’t file for CoC, (form N-600) doesn’t mean they aren’t a full citizen, it infact states that they do not have to go through a naturalization process
[[A person ​born abroad ​who ​acquires​ ​U.S. ​citizenship ​at birth ​is not required to file an Application for Certificate of Citizenship (​Form N-600​). A person who seeks documentation of such status, however, must submit an application to obtain a Certificate of Citizenship from USCIS. A person may also apply for a U.S. Passport with the Department of State to serve as evidence of his or her U.S. citizenship​.
A person who is at least 18 years of age may submit the Application for Certificate of Citizenship on his or her own behalf. If the application is for a child who has not reached 18 years of age, the child’s ​U.S.​ citizen ​parent or ​legal guardian must submit the application.]]
https://www.uscis.gov/policymanual/HTML/PolicyManual-Volume12-PartH-Chapter3.html
Notice at the end it states it is only to serve as further evidence of citizenship- there is nothing that states that in order to be a citizen, one must have this form
Also, [[In addition, in 2000, Congress granted automatic citizenship to most minor children of American parents who were adopted from abroad; previously such adopted children needed to be naturalized.]]]]
http://www.encyclopedia.com/topic/citizen.aspx#2
you’ll note that adopted children do not have to be naturalized any longer- (but still people will try to make the argument that previously they had to be, and now they don’t because of a statute, and anytime there is a statute it means it is a process of law, and not natural- in essence, they don’t accept the law as it stands regarding citizenship)
Dang crazy character glitch- here’s the same psoted without the squiggly marks
[[ D. Application for Certificate of Citizenship (Form N-600)
A person born abroad who acquires U.S. citizenship at birth is not required to file an Application for Certificate of Citizenship (Form N-600). A person who seeks documentation of such status, however, must submit an application to obtain a Certificate of Citizenship from USCIS.]]
It further states that just because someone doesn’t file for CoC, (form N-600) doesn’t mean they aren’t a full citizen, it infact states that they do not have to go through a naturalization process
[[A person ​born abroad ​who ​acquires​ ​U.S. ​citizenship ​at birth ​is not required to file an Application for Certificate of Citizenship (​Form N-600​). A person who seeks documentation of such status, however, must submit an application to obtain a Certificate of Citizenship from USCIS. A person may also apply for a U.S. Passport with the Department of State to serve as evidence of his or her U.S. citizenship​.
A person who is at least 18 years of age may submit the Application for Certificate of Citizenship on his or her own behalf. If the application is for a child who has not reached 18 years of age, the child’s ​U.S.​ citizen ​parent or ​legal guardian must submit the application.]]
https://www.uscis.gov/policymanual/HTML/PolicyManual-Volume12-PartH-Chapter3.html
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