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Why Donald Trump Dropped the Ball in Iowa
vanity | February 2, 2016 | Nathan Bedford

Posted on 02/02/2016 10:49:53 AM PST by nathanbedford

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”Trump believed the polls, he thought he had Iowa in the bag, . . .”

Noting that I will vote for Trump or Cruz, Trump explained in his concession speech that his advisors told him not to bother campaigning in Iowa and that he was happy to come in second (my words).

Regarding the polls, I have now seen a bit of evidence that Iowa politics may be controlled by the bully pulpit, Iowans possibly telling the pollsters what they perceived that the pollsters wanted to hear.

I am glad that Trump got burned by the faulty poll numbers because Trump learns from his mistakes.

61 posted on 02/02/2016 11:53:23 AM PST by Amendment10
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To: dangus

is NH proportionate? why are they all different?


62 posted on 02/02/2016 11:53:39 AM PST by dp0622 (I)
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To: ealgeone

Some of them were never really in the game.

True. Of all the candidates last night, the biggest shock to me was Rand Paul. I can’t believe he only got 5 percent. I thought he was a big college guy with the students? I am glad but just surprised he ended up so low.


63 posted on 02/02/2016 11:54:07 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: VideoDoctor

rubio’s strong showing?

he came in third!!

Trump didn’t even try that hard for Iowa and came in second and Cruz came in first!!

they are going to GO GUNG HO with rubio.


64 posted on 02/02/2016 11:55:36 AM PST by dp0622 (I)
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To: zerosix
RE:”glad to hear that i thought it was mostly Rudy but glad to hear he and Pataki weren't the only New Yorkers!”

Its amazing the muzzies didn't head for the Trump Tower instead!

To really cripple America's spirit.

65 posted on 02/02/2016 11:55:44 AM PST by sickoflibs (Donald Trump : 'It will be wonderful. It will be glorious., You will be amazed, Just wait')
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In some way you are right as far as exposure but Iowa was a tough sell for Donald Trump even with notoriety.

In a 17 man contest, timing is everything. Trump had already done the heavy lifting of messing up both Walker and Carson, and a lot of us had Walker easily being a serious contender at this point. I hope we haven't heard the last of Gov. Walker, and that he learned from his first foray into national politics. Carson is the right man for the wrong job.
66 posted on 02/02/2016 11:57:41 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: nathanbedford

His supporters all said dropping pot of the debate and picking a fight with a woman was genius.

They were wrong.


67 posted on 02/02/2016 12:01:58 PM PST by Blackirish
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Trump would have done much better if there was a coin toss

Imagine. A coin toss.

68 posted on 02/02/2016 12:05:28 PM PST by Daffynition (*Security, confiscate their coats. Get them out of here. It's 10 below zero out there ~DJT)
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To: dangus
Unspeakable, unimaginable hubris. Not a good quality in the leader of a democracy.

Defines every president in our entire history. Perhaps not a good quality but certainly an indispensable one.

69 posted on 02/02/2016 12:09:54 PM PST by Louis Foxwell (Stop Islam and save the world.)
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To: ConservativeWarrior
Or the Clinton-dementia strain.

Stickers. You need stickers.


70 posted on 02/02/2016 12:15:11 PM PST by Daffynition (*Security, confiscate their coats. Get them out of here. It's 10 below zero out there ~DJT)
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To: Dr. Sivana

100000000000 percent correct. I was sadden the day Walker dropped out. He would have been excellent. One thing we do have is a wide variety of good Conservative Republicans. Heck we could do Trump/Santorum or Trump/Walker or Trump/Cotton or Trump/Duffy. We really are very lucky. The Democrats have really a very small pool to work with because a good majority of their candidates have been whipped out at the state and federal level. Which is why they have a 68 year old and a 74 year old running and that is it.....Ok O’Malley who is 55 but received .05 last night. Their future is not bright regardless of what they think.


71 posted on 02/02/2016 12:18:26 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: sickoflibs
Indeed! While we're not from NYC nor NY state, husband was there with a Morgan Stanley group in training (he was asst. ofc. mgr at the time) and in one or other of the two towers. Forget which now, which I shouldn't but just for the record, he was there with a trainee team of guys & gals.

Their lead security guy (Rick Rescorla), was the one of many others I'm sure, went back up to get all staff out but never returned. Rick predicted another attack on the towers after the 1993 bomb blast and had been training all employees to be ready for rapid action in case his prediction came true!

Rick was a great guy and missed by many who loved him dearly for his dedication and now sacrifice. Numbers of dead in MS would have been much larger had Rick not prepared his chargees for a speedy evacuation!

You can forgive me for not knowing of Trump's involvement as we were concerned about our many friends there at the time!

72 posted on 02/02/2016 12:19:22 PM PST by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: zerosix

RE:”You can forgive me for not knowing of Trump’s involvement as we were concerned about our many friends there at the time! “

:)

Great story!


73 posted on 02/02/2016 12:21:16 PM PST by sickoflibs (Donald Trump : 'It will be wonderful. It will be glorious., You will be amazed, Just wait')
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To: dp0622

they are going to GO GUNG HO with rubio.

They are because they want a youthful candidate because if you look at every Presidential election, the younger one wins at least lately. We can’t have an old Trump or Cruz going against an old Bernie and Hillary and win. We need youth at least according to the media.


74 posted on 02/02/2016 12:22:05 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: nathanbedford
You are right that Trump was/is his own worse enemy. From my perspective I've seen 2 Trumps. A very admirable, very talented and one of the world's most "Can do" individuals. And then a less admirable Trump.

BUT, why did he get where he is in the primaries. Because when he got in, he clearly pointed out issues and problems nobody dared mention. Big problems that if not solved could destroy American.

He pulled back the curtain and opened up our eyes to how much disdain the GOPe has for it's own people. Showing that elites are elites no matter what party they are in. One of the few scriptures they know is "the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table" Matthew 15:26-27.

Look at the migrant invasion destroying Europe. Doing actual harm to the average citizens. National leaders who should love their own citizens, with whom they share the same heritage, leaving them totally unprotected. That can happen here people.

By now many people know how he finished the Wollman Skating Rink in Central park in just 6 months, under budget. The city had been working on it for 2 years, was $12m over budget and was nowhere near being completed.

Virtually by himself starting the rebirth of NYC in the 1970s with the renovation of the Commodore Hotel next to Grand Central Terminal. The renovation was a success and is now the world famous Grand Hyatt Hotel of New York. Click Here for Grand Hyatt Pics

Though many of us find things about Trump disappointing and questionable, lets give him a little more time. Let's see how his defeat in Iowa changes him. See if he get's back on the track of bringing up problems and solutions.

See if he really is in this to Make American Great Again, or is he in it just cause he thinks it would make his life complete to be president.

Because we have a very real need for the "good" Trump that started the revival of NYC.
75 posted on 02/02/2016 12:23:02 PM PST by fingers_crossed
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.Ok O’Malley who is 55 but received .05 last night.

The three hugest egos (two Clintons and Obama) have sucked the oxygen, fertilizer and water out of the Dem ecosystem.

Webb and O'Malley's failure toget any significant support shows that. If they really cared about winning, they could go with a mild mid-westerner with a pedigree, Evan Bayh. He knows that he cannot run in this environment. George McGovern's delegate allotment rules, plus a pool of superdelegates pulled largely from the most extreme elemments of the urban Dem machines makes it impossible for a mainstream candidate to compete for the Dem nomination unless he were already a superstar in his own right.
76 posted on 02/02/2016 12:24:44 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: sickoflibs
It is really and even now, heart rendering when reflecting back on those many days surrounding such an event!

We were all shocked, scared and angered.

We were all Americans - and thought we'd be forever friends. Liberals, of course, could only pretend to pull together for the sake of the memory of the lost.

Sorry the unity of spirit lasted such a short time!

77 posted on 02/02/2016 12:25:02 PM PST by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: sickoflibs

Which leads me to believe that Trump being up by 20 points in NH is more crap. Trump will win NH only because it will be there that Cruz and Rubio split the vote. In the NE, Rubio is a conservative.


78 posted on 02/02/2016 12:30:25 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (The Trump/Cruz war is a media generated war so the establishment can stay in power.)
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To: napscoordinator

Cruz and Rubio are practically the same age Ted’s ONE year older.


79 posted on 02/02/2016 12:31:28 PM PST by dp0622 (I)
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To: napscoordinator

but i know. Marco is better looking and younger looking


80 posted on 02/02/2016 12:32:10 PM PST by dp0622 (I)
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