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'Natural Born' Issue for Ted Cruz Is Not Settled and Not Going Away
NBC news ^ | 1/19/16 | Pete Williams

Posted on 01/19/2016 6:38:55 AM PST by RC one

While the nation's legal scholars differ over the exact meaning of the Constitution's requirement that a person must be a "natural born citizen" to become president, they're unanimous in saying Ted Cruz is wrong about an important point.

"As a legal matter, the question is quite straightforward and settled law," Cruz has said. "People will continue to make political noise about it, but as a legal matter it is quite straightforward."

In fact, the experts say, it is neither settled nor straightforward.

It's not settled — because the Constitution does not define "natural born," a phrase that appears in the nation's founding document only once.

And though the federal courts have chewed on it from time to time, the U.S. Supreme Court has never officially said what it means.

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcnews.com ...


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KEYWORDS: 3dollarbilltedcruz; cruz; cruznbc; naturalborncitizen
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To: 2pets

As I suggested before, you are free to dismiss my contention on the basis of me failing to produce a point cite. The section of naturalization at birth law has changed little between 1934 and now. I don’t care if you believe me or not. If you require seeing the particular language in order to believe, look it up. I have to look things up for myself, often. It’s no big deal. If you doubt what I say, and it’s important to you, look it up. It’s not important to me that you accept my contention. I’m happy as a clam if you tell me I made it up out of whole cloth, or haven’t met my burden of proof.


61 posted on 01/19/2016 1:50:27 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt
"As I suggested before, you are free to dismiss my contention on the basis of me failing to produce a point cite. The section of naturalization at birth law has changed little between 1934 and now. I don't care if you believe me or not. If you require seeing the particular language in order to believe, look it up."

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I did. Under the 1952 law in effect at the time of Cruz's birth in Canada he was not even born a US citizen, let alone a natural born citizen.

Sec 320:

Child Born Outside of United States of One Alien and One Citizen Parent at Time of Birth; Conditions under which Citizenship Automatically Acquired

62 posted on 01/19/2016 3:59:51 PM PST by 2pets
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To: Cboldt
"As I suggested before, you are free to dismiss my contention on the basis of me failing to produce a point cite. The section of naturalization at birth law has changed little between 1934 and now. I don’t care if you believe me or not. If you require seeing the particular language in order to believe, look it up. I have to look things up for myself, often. It’s no big deal. If you doubt what I say, and it’s important to you, look it up. It’s not important to me that you accept my contention. I’m happy as a clam if you tell me I made it up out of whole cloth, or haven’t met my burden of proof."

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Cite the relevant part of the 1952 Act that naturalizes Cruz.

63 posted on 01/19/2016 3:59:52 PM PST by 2pets
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To: 2pets

No. You fetch it yuourself. Leave me alone.


64 posted on 01/19/2016 4:01:44 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt
"No. You fetch it yourself. Leave me alone."

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You can't cite it because it doesn't exist.

65 posted on 01/20/2016 4:52:53 AM PST by 2pets
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To: 2pets
You can't find it because you are incompetent.

1952 Nationality and Naturalization Act, Sec 301(a)(7) [you'll find the text crossing from page 235 to 236]

66 posted on 01/20/2016 4:56:14 AM PST by Cboldt
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