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Real world iPhone 6s adoption data contradicts Apple supplier channel check rumors
Apple Insider ^ | Thursday, January 07, 2016, 11:03 am PT | By Daniel Eran Dilger

Posted on 01/07/2016 9:00:49 PM PST by Swordmaker

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1 posted on 01/07/2016 9:00:49 PM PST by Swordmaker
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I’ll be eligible for an update from my Galaxy 4s in a week, but I want a phone with a user replaceable battery and a micro-SD slot. Do such phones exist anymore? If not, I guess I’ll stick with what I have.


2 posted on 01/07/2016 9:10:23 PM PST by Dalberg-Acton
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I think you can still get a Galaxy Note 4 that the battery is replaceable on. Other than that I don’t know but not on the Note 5.


3 posted on 01/07/2016 9:13:54 PM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (It's a shame enobama truly doesn't care about any of this. Our country, our future, he doesn't care)
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The negative supply chain report that has resulted in devastating stock market results for AAPL stock are not reflected in Apple iPhone 6s and 6s Plus adoption rates or activation rates to justify the claims of the bear analysts who are making their prognostications based on very little evidence indicating the iPhone market is slowing. Daniel Eran Dilger graphically show the actual adoption of iPhones over time to demonstrate it is not happening. These are data any of the analysts could have used but it would not have fit their agenda! Apple as the lowest P/E of any Tech stock out there, with Apple's stock now selling at 10.45 times earnings. Amazon stock price is at an astronomical 886 times earnings, while Alphabet/Google and Microsoft are at a more expected 35 times earnings. If AAPL were selling commensurate with either of those two tech stocks, it would be around $300 a share. Yet Apple is far more profitable than any of those companies but is only $96 a share. Wall Street is beyond irrational, it is insane! -- PING!

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4 posted on 01/07/2016 9:15:31 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue....)
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To: Dalberg-Acton

Lg Vizio is what I had to buy to get those features. I must say that a couple design choices I find annoying, like the power and volume buttons being on the back, and the onscreen back and home buttons which sometimes need to be coaxed out of hiding. It makes up for these shortcomings by still allowing the replaceable battery, SD card slot, and the secondary mini screen, which I actually find very handy.


5 posted on 01/07/2016 9:18:51 PM PST by bolobaby
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To: Dalberg-Acton
I'll be eligible for an update from my Galaxy 4s in a week, but I want a phone with a user replaceable battery and a micro-SD slot. Do such phones exist anymore? If not, I guess I'll stick with what I have.

I think some of the other brand Androids still have those features. No iPhones have that. Top of the line Samsungs seem to have discontinued the swappable batteries and SD slots. The SD slots are security problems because a data thief merely has to open the phone take out the SD card, copy the data, and stick it back in. voila, data stolen. They are also means of sneaking data or malware into an secure environment for transfer onto a computer. As such they are not allowed in many secure locations.

As for swappable batteries, unless the entire lower back of the phone IS the battery, swappable batteries require the phone to be thicker and heavier due to engineering requirements for the replaceable battery to have a protective case, and the phone to have a door and contacts, and a wall between the battery compartment and critical internal components. It means the battery has to be smaller with less capacity than it could have been to accommodate all those extra walls, doors, contacts, etc. So, to give you what you want: a removable battery, every phone with one, has to have a lower capacity battery and therefore less talk and standby time.

There are reasons why more modern phones are dropping these features.

6 posted on 01/07/2016 9:25:25 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue....)
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There no more service contracts, now you contract only the phone at full price. Will make less people buy phones that often.


7 posted on 01/07/2016 9:43:13 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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LG G4 has a removable battery. So does their V10. Both great phones.


8 posted on 01/07/2016 9:52:09 PM PST by aquila48
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There no more service contracts, now you contract only the phone at full price. Will make less people buy phones that often.

No, CA Guy, it means people can upgrade more often. They don't have to wait until a two year contract expires to upgrade. In fact, that is exactly what is happening with the NEXT program at AT&T. Subscribers are upgrading every year, trading in their phones by rolling over their one year old model for the newest model when it comes out by trading in the older one. . . just like buying a car with a balance still left on it, but which has enough equity to pay for itself. Sorry, but you are just wrong.

I bought my iPhone 6 on the NEXT program and when the iPhone 6s came out, I walked into the AT&T store, turned in my iPhone 6 and walked out with an iPhone 6s at zero cost out of my pocket and my payments per month on my purchase contract did not change. . . they were just extended equal to the number I had already paid on my iPhone 6. Next year, when the iPhone 7 comes out, I can walk in and trade in my iPhone 6s and walk out with an iPhone 7. Same deal.

With that plan, Apple sells a new phone every twelve months instead of selling a new phone every 24 months. If every Apple iPhone user does it, they just doubled their sales! In addition, they get used iPhones to recondition and sell at discounted prices over-seas in emerging markets. Win-win. . . and higher profits.

9 posted on 01/07/2016 9:54:15 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue....)
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The LG V10 has a replaceable battery and a micro SD slot.


10 posted on 01/07/2016 10:11:14 PM PST by macgregor_45
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I have AT&T and they quoted me $500 dollars higher than my last Phone the 6. 8th was the last deal date for contracts. Basically one way or another they want $850..
All these phone company stocks are going down as people upgrade half or less as much as before IMO.


11 posted on 01/07/2016 11:10:47 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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I have AT&T and they quoted me $500 dollars higher than my last Phone the 6. 8th was the last deal date for contracts. Basically one way or another they want $850..
All these phone company stocks are going down as people upgrade half or less as much as before IMO.

Were you on the NEXT program or on contract? If you were on NEXT, they would not have quoted you a price like that. I was on the NEXT Program, took my iPhone 6 in, gave it back to them, and walked out with my new iPhone 6s. My payments did not change. Done.


Image grabbed January 8, 2016, 12:12AM from AT&T Website.


The current NEXT minimum monthly pricing of iPhone 6s and 6s Plus on AT&T

So, if you had been on the NEXT program you could have upgrade at a reasonable price instead of having to pay an early termination fee, which you agreed to do when you signed the two year contract when you paid your downpayment for paying full RETAIL for your iPhone 6. . . which is what you did. You did not "buy" your iPhone 6 for $199 or $299. That was merely the downpayment on the phone. The contract specified if you terminated the contract early, you had to pay it off.

You could have paid the difference, kept the iPhone 6, had them unlock it as it would now be yours free and clear, and sold it on eBay where 16GB models are going for anywhere from $400 to $550 depending on condition.

12 posted on 01/08/2016 12:34:11 AM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue....)
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Does that mean you never actually OWN your iPhone? Just lease it?

I give my old iPhone to my girlfriend, if I lease it under the new plan, that MEAns I can never give it to someone, right?

Ed


13 posted on 01/08/2016 1:57:01 AM PST by Sir_Ed
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Does that mean you never actually OWN your iPhone? Just lease it?

I give my old iPhone to my girlfriend, if I lease it under the new plan, that MEAns I can never give it to someone, right?

If you don't trade it in, and finish the payments, you'll own it. Or you can pay off the balance and own it and start a new plan. You're essentially exchanging your old phone for the new with the old one's equity covering the new one's down payment.

14 posted on 01/08/2016 4:07:33 AM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue....)
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Mostly about Apple stuff but it does have some graphs pertaining to Android adoption rates. - ANDROID PING!

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My take: interesting numbers, but I'm not sure rates (percentages) tell the whole story. For example, a few minutes searching/reading and you find that Samsung S5 sales beat S4 sales in total numbers. Yet the adoption/use rates look worse. That is probably a reflection of an expanding market. You can sell more units, but still have a smaller piece of the bigger pie...
15 posted on 01/08/2016 6:33:31 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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I was off contract and have been with them since they were PacBell +18-20 years ago when they only had beepers.
A while ago I called the retention department because I wanted to go to a data plan.
They matched the Verizon loyalty plan cost of $60. So I have at least gig of data with up to an additional 3 gig of roll over data. I think they call it share.
Through the company I got the prior IPhone 6 for $399 total price.

Before the 8th I was offered at most $499 up front with a raise in service cosy of $15 a month for 24 months. Basically $850 for the iPhone 6+ 128.
Do I have something wrong or do I get a better deal elsewhere?

16 posted on 01/08/2016 8:55:41 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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Your next diagram has me paying $960. Probably $1100 with taxes.


17 posted on 01/08/2016 9:00:21 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: bolobaby

Ugh - not Vizio - that’s a TV, heh. The V10 is what I meant.


18 posted on 01/08/2016 9:57:10 AM PST by bolobaby
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Through the company I got the prior IPhone 6 for $399 total price.

ROTFLMAO! If you believe that, I have this great bridge for sale in Brooklyn. You can have it for a bargain price. I'll sell it to you and you can start charging tolls for all the cars that cross and pay for it in a month from the tolls you charge.

No, CA Guy, that was NOT your total price. That was the down payment on the two year contract price which brought it down to the regular amortized cost of $650 of the basic iPhone already built into their standard contract. The rest of your payments were hidden in your 24 monthly payments of your contract obligation. What do think there's a free lunch and that AT&T gratuitously sold you a thousand dollar iPhone for $400 just to keep your business? Having done business with them (and frankly I hate them and have kicked them out of my office with prejudice and would switch from them as carriers were it not for too many family phones--don't get me started on the below sewer level customer service I've received from AT&T) I can assure you they are not in the business of doing good deeds. . . and will screw it to their customers any chance an opportunity arises.

They did NOT give you $600, they charged you $600 and you paid it. You just did not notice the anesthesia.

19 posted on 01/08/2016 11:25:50 AM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue....)
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Hmm.., they left out the Z2, Z3, Z4, and Z5... but I’m not really into this fanboi stuff anyway ;^)


20 posted on 01/08/2016 4:41:50 PM PST by Bikkuri ((...))
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