[Responsibility2nd]

Under what circumstances do you consider bankruptcy to be valid at all?

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You’re asking the wrong person. Kingu is arguing that it’s a valid position to file bankruptcy to weasel out of student loans.

If you want to start a different topic and argue under what conditions it might be valid to file bankruptcy, then fine.

But for now - lets stay on the subject.

[Oberon]

This is the subject. It doesn't seem to me that your problem with bankruptcy is necessarily specific to student loans, but rather that you object to the entire concept of bankruptcy per se.

That's not necessarily an unreasoned position, or an unreasonable one. I was just asking for clarification.