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Donald Trump Criticized Ted Cruz for Opposition to Crony Capitalism, Evangelical Beliefs
PJ Media ^ | 12-12-2015 | Michael van der Galien

Posted on 12/12/2015 5:19:32 AM PST by Michael van der Galien

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To: Hostage

So what now ? Elect exclusively billionaires in the future because everyone else has to run their presidential campaigns off of donations ?

In that case we will only be influenced by what all the billionaires have to say, and be only at their mercy.

No thanks..

We don’t want to elect anymore tyrants who are not held accountable.

No thanks


21 posted on 12/12/2015 5:55:07 AM PST by American Constitutionalist ( because the Constitution matteHow canrs.)
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To: wideawake
At the DOE and EPA, maybe

And the Department of Agriculture!

22 posted on 12/12/2015 6:00:20 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: Theo

Scroll down a bit and read the thread about Trumps interview this morning. Probably better to wait for the video to post on youtube or fox.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3371682/posts


23 posted on 12/12/2015 6:03:19 AM PST by huldah1776
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To: Helicondelta

He was also wrong. Cruz supports eliminating ALL energy subsidies. Trump dances with half truth again.


24 posted on 12/12/2015 6:05:56 AM PST by jstaff
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To: Fantasywriter
All agreed that Trump was very warm and complimentary toward Cruz.

As he was this AM on Faux Gnews.

25 posted on 12/12/2015 6:07:35 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Helicondelta

I have worked in both. The oil industry has more subsidies than ethanol could ever hope to. Oh, OSHA, the EPA, and a lot of other fedgov agencies treat oil much differently than oil.

One example is to point out that all the rail cars that keep blowing up filled with oil would not meet the standard if they were filled with ethanol.

If we are going to play the game, then cut all the subsides. Which I would support.


26 posted on 12/12/2015 6:11:59 AM PST by redgolum
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To: Michael van der Galien
GovCo ethanol is a bad idea that I'd love to see go away.

If I understand it correctly, the idea is to use up large amounts of money, fuel, land and water to grow food, and then, using up more money, energy and water, that food is turned into ethanol.

Then, that ethanol gets blended with gasoline, which by itself has more energy than ethanol, to create a lower energy replacement for gasoline, in order to save money and have a cleaner environment.

However, because the gasohol has less energy than gasoline, vehicles get fewer miles per gallon than with pure gas, and thus burn more fuel to go the same distance.

Is that close, because that sounds crazy. Does anyone speak "Common Core" and can explain this math to me?

Why don't we just use gasoline for fuel, eat the food we grow, responsibly enjoy the ethanol we distill and save the water for better uses?

27 posted on 12/12/2015 6:12:12 AM PST by GBA (Just a hick in paradise and There Are FOUR Lights!)
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To: redgolum

Oil much differently than ethanol.

Wow, I need more coffee this Saturday!


28 posted on 12/12/2015 6:13:55 AM PST by redgolum
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To: Helicondelta; wideawake; jstaff
Mr. Trump is parroting a bogus claim found in ads placed by America's Renewable Future, a lobbyist group that wants to keep taxpayer subsidies going to the ethanol industry which Cruz opposes. It's very disappointing that Trump followed the standard formula of pandering to the ethanol lobby in Iowa.

Cruz for President Campaign Asks Radio Stations to Pull False Attack Ads Running in Iowa

"It is blatantly false to suggest that Sen. Cruz wants to end the Renewable Fuel Standard while maintaining subsidies for oil," Cruz spokesman Rick Tyler said. "Cruz has repeatedly stated that he would end all energy specific subsidies, both ethanol and oil among others."

Earlier this year in a speech delivered at Heritage Action in Washington, D.C., Cruz said, "Big government energy mandates don't stop with ethanol. There are tax credits for almost every form of energy. Each designed to give one industry a leg up over the other."


29 posted on 12/12/2015 6:14:47 AM PST by Unmarked Package (Don't hope, instead KNOW you are supporting a PROVEN conservative. Ted Cruz 2016)
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To: Don Corleone

Thanks for that update. I hadn’t heard about it. I did note that Trump retweeted the nice tweet Cruz made yesterday. Trump only retweets comments he likes, so it was a positive move.


30 posted on 12/12/2015 6:15:19 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: redgolum

And the real oil expense no one wants to talk about; a huge percent of the US defense budget (and foreign policy) is devoted to protecting oil production and transportation.


31 posted on 12/12/2015 6:16:29 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Theo
This BS comes around every election cycle!!!!!!!!

"who's for ethanol subsidies, who's against ethanol subsidies"......

PURE BS if you ask me, because WHO GIVES A CRAP about this CRAP when the country is going to pot for EVERY OTHER REASON THAN "ETHANOL SUBSADIES"!


32 posted on 12/12/2015 6:17:13 AM PST by LibFreeUSA
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To: Michael van der Galien

Don’t be stupid. The media would like nothing more than a full fight between Cruz and Trump knocking them both out.

Trump hasn’t said anything that isn’t true. Cruz isn’t playing along. DOn’t feed the fires.

Decide who you back and bak them else wise you get Bush or Rubio or some other pathetic GOPe


33 posted on 12/12/2015 6:17:28 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: GBA

Ethanol was developed as an extender. It was viewed as a real threat by the oil industry, till they got a piece of the action.

The best companies (of which my former company used to be one till they went chasing solar) used ethanol as a way to make cattle feed and CO2. That makes you a decent amount of money, and keeps your by products balanced.

What happened recently is that corn got so cheap the beef producers would rather feed high carb diets to the cows (corn alone is not good for them) than the normal ration. Many have scaled down. Also, the wet mills are not making as much sugar lately because we don’t drink as much soda as ten years ago.


34 posted on 12/12/2015 6:17:42 AM PST by redgolum
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To: jjotto

Correct. If the Middle East just grew turnips, no one would care about them and Bin Ladin would have never been heard of.

That is also why oil prices are so low right now. If the US really got going on oil sand production, the Middle East would lose its only source of income. The countries don’t have any other economy.

The funny thing is that the two places placed to expand post oil are Iran (who has been under embargo for so long they had to develop something else) and Russia.


35 posted on 12/12/2015 6:21:03 AM PST by redgolum
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To: wideawake

I am not anti-Trump but I also agree with Cruz that ethanol subsidies are bad.

Where do you classify me? :-)


36 posted on 12/12/2015 6:24:35 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: American Constitutionalist

There’s a difference between billionaire George Soros and billionaire Donald Trump, there’s a difference between billionaire Mark Zuckerschmuck and billionaire Donald Trump, there’s a difference between billionaire Mike Bloomberg and billionaire Donald Trump, etc. etc. etc.

So your little ‘billioniare’ blurb is all f’ked up. There’s no value in it. It’s not even worth fresh dog poop.

So you got it wrong. We elect a blue collar billionaire (as Mark Levin describes him) to clean up the corruption inside the Beltway. More importantly, we elect Donald Trump as a patriot of the highest order who has a proven track record of real performance, and who will end the capture of Washington DC by foreign billionaires and their K-Steet minions. Unfortunately for now, it takes a billionaire to go up against billionaires.

Then we can get back to electing people who have a track record of performance regardless of their wealth.

Right now the USS America is sinking and we need a Donald Trump or a Ted Cruz to save it. After it’s saved and made seaworthy, less stellar men and women may be considered to be its Captain because all they need do is drive the ship and obey the rules of the road (Constitution).


37 posted on 12/12/2015 6:36:44 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: American Constitutionalist
I used to be on the fence about the NSA issue, but San Bernardino is hard and irrefutable proof that surveillance is ineffective.

Calling for more of it now is simply insane.

38 posted on 12/12/2015 6:37:42 AM PST by wideawake
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To: SoFloFreeper
It makes you a conservative with a soft spot in your heart for used car salesmen?

:)

39 posted on 12/12/2015 6:39:49 AM PST by wideawake
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To: Helicondelta

What are the oil company subsidizes specifically?

Tax credits for developing sources of oil are very different than taxpayer funds for an inefficient (energy source) destructive government mandate which raises costs to the taxpayers.

Specific as to what the subsidy Cruz supports. IMO you are blowing smoke out of your butt like Trump.


40 posted on 12/12/2015 6:44:32 AM PST by Leto
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