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1 posted on 12/08/2015 11:20:09 AM PST by CodeToad
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Don’t expect the FBI to be truthful to the media. I wouldn’t think they would want the bad guys to know what they have.


2 posted on 12/08/2015 11:25:21 AM PST by chopperman
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Metadata can reveal relationships. Relationships can reveal:

Who knows who
Who belongs to which organizations
Who has what interests

This article is an informative introduction

http://www.kieranhealy.org/blog/archives/2013/06/09/using-metadata-to-find-paul-revere/


3 posted on 12/08/2015 11:29:44 AM PST by Ray76
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Why Does Fox News Lie About Phone Record Metadata and the NSA?

Because IT'S BUSH FAULT THAT YOU'RE RACIST, that's why...

Now eat your peas...

4 posted on 12/08/2015 11:30:14 AM PST by Old Sarge
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In what way is “Fox News” doing this?


5 posted on 12/08/2015 11:31:14 AM PST by mlo
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After obama foxnews went pretty far to the left. They used to be a centrist news channel with center-right/right-wing talk show hosts. Now they are a borderline leftwing news with a centrist/center right hosts.

As to the NSA vs FBI. Their whine is most likely “the FBI didn’t have “real time” access to the cell data.” While true in a very simplistic fashion at the same time mostly meaningless. This is classic leftist propaganda slight of hand.

What fox is saying but only through implying is that if the NSA could track us 24/7 the FBI could have called over, given the names/cells in the area and the NSA could “zoom in” on the info and give it to the FBI without all that nasty “due process”/”warrant” stuff that no one really needs or wants.


8 posted on 12/08/2015 11:33:46 AM PST by robotech master
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Phone record metadata includes the phone numbers involved, the time of the call, and the location of the phones at the time. This information is available from the phone carriers. We all have cell phone bills that show each and every phone call.

This magic NSA metadata is nothing more than Phone company BILLING RECORDS.

The Phone companies collect and keep this for years and always have.


9 posted on 12/08/2015 11:34:21 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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That’s curious. I would certainly like to know if there is some unforeseen problem with the changes.

Burner phones? repeaters? aliases?
None seem likely to apply.


10 posted on 12/08/2015 11:36:59 AM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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FOX news has rolled over to the rest of the liberal MSM.


11 posted on 12/08/2015 11:37:14 AM PST by SkyDancer ("Nobody Said I Was Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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None of that "metadata" information regarding a private citizen should be available to the government without due process. In other words, search warrants and subpoenas based on probable cause.

Fishing expeditions with no probable cause are just as Unconstitutional as they always have been.

For the government to pretend that there is some kind of new right for them to gather this data is absolutely ludicrous.

Obtaining such data without probable cause is a clear violation of the Fourth Amendment.

12 posted on 12/08/2015 11:46:07 AM PST by sargon
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The more socialist, the more the state becomes your master not your servant and the more they want information to create control... its pretty much that simple... communism is about controling the means of production, and they cant make up rules that everyone will follow, so they need lots more information... however, in a free market system, your rules are a framework and you dont seek to control, so you dont need that information.

got it?


22 posted on 12/08/2015 12:10:47 PM PST by artfldgr
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They lie rather than die.


25 posted on 12/08/2015 1:03:13 PM PST by GingisK
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