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Deaths of home-schooled kids across US shocking, but lawmakers reluctant to create new rules
Star Tribune ^ | 12-6-15 | Bill Draper

Posted on 12/06/2015 2:59:38 PM PST by windcliff

KANSAS CITY, Kan. — A Detroit brother and sister vanished more than two years before they were found dead in a freezer in their home, and an 11-year-old Florida girl disappeared more than a year before she, too, turned up in a family freezer. And a 7-year-old Kansas boy hadn't been seen for more than a month before authorities found the gruesome remains of a child in a pigsty inside his family's barn.

All of them were home-schooled, but despite their disappearances going unnoticed for so long, opposition from the government-wary home-schooling community means it's unlikely these states will start keeping closer tabs on home-schooled children.

"It's largely a conservative thing, but even progressive home-schoolers tend to resist oversight," said Rachel Coleman, co-founder of the nonprofit Coalition for Responsible Home Education. "Part of it is because there is an assumption that parents always know what's best for their children."

The most recent case, at a home near Kansas City, Kansas, is still being investigated and authorities said it could be weeks before they positively identify the child whose remains officers found in the barn.

Such cases are horrific but they don't typically lead to new restrictions on home-schooling, which many parents see as their deeply personal right, said Rob Kunzman, director of the International Center for Home Education Research at Indiana University.

Although the number of home-schooled students jumped nationwide to about 1.7 million between 2003 and 2012, they still represent just over 3 percent of all students, Coleman said.

"As many as two-thirds are home-schooling in part for religious reasons," Coleman said. "Part of that for conservative Christians is that God has given that child to the parents, not the state. The state doesn't own my child, God has entrusted my child to me."

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KEYWORDS: childbuse; education; homeschool
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To: windcliff

If minor deaths caused banning, immediately ban all sports for kids.


21 posted on 12/06/2015 3:19:33 PM PST by Yaelle (Trump Cruz 2016)
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To: windcliff

I am willing to bet that at least 5 kids a week are killed at public schools nationwide. His premise is seriously flawed.


22 posted on 12/06/2015 3:19:34 PM PST by packrat35 (Pelosi is only on loan to the world from Satan. Hopefully he will soon want his baby killer back)
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To: windcliff

Good grief, another moronic stab at denigrating homeschool situations by persons who seem to think that public schooling is somehow more accountable to children.

I say this because if a truly scientific study were to be funded, I am certain that the plight of public schooled children would be much worse than homeschooled children. And I know for a fact that many public schooled kids have been found dead, neglected, abandoned and abused.

It is already a time-tested fact that homeschooled children surpass their counterparts in public schools in academics and social grounding.

Today, there are vast homeschool networks that are hard to keep up with in terms of the sheer number of activities that are offered to homeschooled kids. It is truly mindboggling what parents can put together for their kids and how they come together with other parents to provide not just an education but a community that is not threatened by some government common core agenda.

More homeschools are going online, especially Christian curriculums which stress the rigorous classical curriculums as well as indepth Bible study.


23 posted on 12/06/2015 3:21:40 PM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: windcliff

“research she and five other pediatricians conducted on the torture of children found that of the 28 young victims studied, nearly half were home-schooled and an additional 29 percent weren’t allowed to attend school at all.”

“Knox said she would like to see uniform home-schooling laws across the country that at least keep tabs on children with open or previous Child Protective Services cases who are removed from school to be home-schooled.”

So children with open or previous CPS cases are not checked up on. Doesn’t have anything to do with the homeschoolers. It is a tool used by psychotic child abusers.

“3. Around 100 children are abducted and murdered in the U.S. each year. Around 60% of all child-murder abductions are at the hands of someone the child knows, not a stranger.
4. In around 75% of all murder-abductions, the child is believed to be dead within 3-6 hours of the abduction.
5. Nearly all murdered children are killed by a family member, most often a parent.”

As stated, this has nothing to do with homeschooling. Murderers and abusers found it is a useful cover.

http://www.keepyourchildsafe.org/abduction-murder.asp


24 posted on 12/06/2015 3:25:37 PM PST by huldah1776
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To: Hostage

One of the threads from Detroit when it happened.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3280417/posts


25 posted on 12/06/2015 3:26:28 PM PST by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: huldah1776

Those who never make it to school age...

“The infant homicide rate increased from 4.3 per 100,000 in 1970, to 9.2 in 2000, before declining to 7.2 per 100,000 in 2013.”

http://www.childtrends.org/?indicators=infant-homicide#sthash.gOuXk7mn.dpuf


26 posted on 12/06/2015 3:27:07 PM PST by huldah1776
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To: windcliff

Nothing less than a hit piece on home-schoolers.


27 posted on 12/06/2015 3:29:08 PM PST by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: windcliff
A hit piece against Christians and home schoolers,inflating a non-issue issue to an earth shattering one.Nauseating,but not surprising.
28 posted on 12/06/2015 3:29:54 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Obamanomics:Trickle Up Poverty)
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To: packrat35

Actually your premise is off.

They are trying to peg home-schoolers as weird psychos more likely to kill than their nice public school parents.

Thus, public school children are less likely to die at the hands of their parents than homers. Right?

Which, I doubt would be the case.


29 posted on 12/06/2015 3:31:10 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: muir_redwoods

Your assumption that the majority of home school kids have a smaller circle of contacts is ignorance.

Here is a quoted quote from the article:
The data from their research suggests that homeschoolers are not being socially isolated, nor are they emotionally maladjusted.

https://www.hslda.org/docs/nche/000000/00000068.asp

Care to back your “On an aggregate level...it probably is true...” with some facts?


30 posted on 12/06/2015 3:37:26 PM PST by csivils
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To: muir_redwoods

A reasonable premise. Except that, so often today “home-schooling” is actually “neighbor-schooling” as many people join together in a community of virtual 1-room schoolhouse where parents share teaching responsibility. So many often already have others expecting them around, as well as communit activities.


31 posted on 12/06/2015 3:38:40 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: Hostage

There have been studies, they did turn out as you would expect. HSLDA has several linked on their website. I just linked to an article on one.


32 posted on 12/06/2015 3:39:25 PM PST by csivils
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To: windcliff

So, according to the “logic” of this article, if the parents who killed their kids weren’t allowed to home school their kids, they wouldn’t have murdered them. Yes, what great logic. (smirk)


33 posted on 12/06/2015 3:39:59 PM PST by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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To: windcliff

I’m thinking that more kids were killed in public schools.


34 posted on 12/06/2015 3:40:48 PM PST by SkyDancer ("Nobody Said I Was Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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To: csivils

Nothing wrong with his logic. Just needs to look at it harder.

But that just further points to how the article premise is that homer parents are weird killer psychos, while oublic parents are normal and not killers.


35 posted on 12/06/2015 3:40:58 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: Dr. Sivana
And which of these deaths would have been prevented if there were home-school checkup laws?

Yes, that's the big hole in their argument. If the parents were determined to kill their kids, it certainly wouldn't make any difference whether they home-schooled the kids or sent them out to school. I doubt the "geniuses" at the paper thought of that.

36 posted on 12/06/2015 3:42:13 PM PST by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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To: windcliff

“All of them were home-schooled”

All 3 of them?

Children in public schools are less safe than those who are home schooled.

Get back to me when the government figures out a way to defund Planned Parenthood and keep homosexual couple from being adoptive parents and foster parents.


37 posted on 12/06/2015 3:47:48 PM PST by unlearner (RIP America, 7/4/1776 - 6/26/2015, "Only God can judge us now." - Claus Von Stauffenberg / Valkyrie)
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To: windcliff
So?.....What are we to conclude?

If institutional schooling protects children from abuse then why start at kindergarten age?

Why not have government teachers catch the baby at birth in the delivery room? They they could have NEA staffed newborn and infant “schools”. Of course, since children and infants are in danger from their EEEEEVIL parents, these schools would be compulsory attendance 24/7/ all year. The parents could visit their infants and older children on Sunday afternoons under strict NEA teacher supervision.

38 posted on 12/06/2015 3:48:58 PM PST by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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To: windcliff

“Part of that for conservative Christians is that God has given that child to the parents, not the state. The state doesn’t own my child, God has entrusted my child to me.”

How did a completely correct statement get included in this otherwise pile of horse crap?


39 posted on 12/06/2015 3:54:02 PM PST by I cannot think of a name
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To: muir_redwoods
How many of these missing children were institutionally schooled in government facilities and were reported as being “homeschooled” only after they were killed?

How many of these kids were already on the Child Welfare watch lists ( some for **years** )**before** they were killed? That's already been the case in some of these high profile cases. In some of these case many many **many** reports have been made by very concerned family and friends.

40 posted on 12/06/2015 3:56:26 PM PST by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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