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Carson Spurns GOP Base With Support for Obamatrade TPP
New American ^ | 11/10/2015 | Alex Newman

Posted on 11/10/2015 1:44:06 PM PST by conservativejoy

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To: Balding_Eagle

How many issues can a candidate be complete wrong on and still have support? You would have thought Amnesty and Gun Control would have been enough, but now we’ll see if TPP is the silver bullet.


21 posted on 11/10/2015 2:28:30 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God,,,, We can elect Ted Cruz!)
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To: Nervous Tick

Carson is so much like Obama he is in the wrong primary.


22 posted on 11/10/2015 2:30:38 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God,,,, We can elect Ted Cruz!)
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To: conservativejoy

Dr. Ben, you are making a most critical error.
You’re probably holding this position because it’s popular with some of your largest donors. The rich donors more or less live in their own country: one without borders and without the right to act independantly. Look at the mess that the EU is dissolving into due to non-assimilation Muslim Dumping. Do you want that here, in the states too?


23 posted on 11/10/2015 2:38:12 PM PST by lee martell
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To: Georgia Girl 2
I'd like to ask him directly if he is on any meds.

He's a vegan...so I bet he agrees with the climate hoax.

24 posted on 11/10/2015 2:42:26 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: conservativejoy

With Carson supporting TPP and amnesty, what’s different from Yeb! or Young Yeb!?


25 posted on 11/10/2015 2:46:21 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Carson should just hang a “FOR SALE” sign around his neck.


26 posted on 11/10/2015 3:02:06 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God,,,, We can elect Ted Cruz!)
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To: Theoria

On the vote that put the Fast Track bill on Obama’s desk, Cruz voted “No”.


27 posted on 11/10/2015 3:03:08 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God,,,, We can elect Ted Cruz!)
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To: conservativejoy

Sure, and he still supported it the first time when it came to voting.


28 posted on 11/10/2015 3:09:40 PM PST by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: Theoria

How many times has Trump changed his mind on issues? Cruz gave his reason for his change in position and they were sound.


29 posted on 11/10/2015 3:26:36 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God,,,, We can elect Ted Cruz!)
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To: conservativejoy

I don’t know all of Trump’s positions, nor do I support any candidate at the moment, they all have their own issues. I merely brought up the fact that Cruz supported and voted for TPA, then changed his tune later.


30 posted on 11/10/2015 3:30:35 PM PST by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: Theoria

He changed his mind and voted against it because the immigration language that he and Sessions wanted wasn’t in the final bill, for one thing. That language would have prevented a lot of the problems in TPP right now, but Rand Paul and another Senator blocked it.


31 posted on 11/10/2015 3:39:29 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God,,,, We can elect Ted Cruz!)
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To: conservativejoy
'He changed his mind and voted against it because the immigration language that he and Sessions wanted wasn’t in the final bill, for one thing.'

It was never gonna be put in the bill. He knew that back in April when he was talking about how great TPa was for Congress; they were in control and set the negotiations. Then he comes out later after voting for it the first time, that there weren't protections and such, then why the hell did you support it the first time.

32 posted on 11/10/2015 3:47:18 PM PST by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: All

On top of all this and his youthful violence- notice how glassy his eyes always are? I think he’s on something.


33 posted on 11/10/2015 3:51:20 PM PST by patriot08 (4th geneneration Texan (girl type))
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To: conservativejoy
Cruz voted against TPA.

Cruz voted to bring it to the floor, wherefrom it would definitely pass.

34 posted on 11/10/2015 3:51:32 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

There were far more thsn the 60 votes needed even without Cruz’s vote for cloture. Are you seriously saying that this was not going to be brought to the floor without Cruz?


35 posted on 11/10/2015 3:58:09 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God,,,, We can elect Ted Cruz!)
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To: conservativejoy
There were far more thsn the 60 votes needed even without Cruz’s vote for cloture.

Who can we thank for that? Paul Ryan and Ted Cruz working hand in hand to insure its passage, belittling conservatives as internet conspiracy kooks, and repeating GOPe talking points.

Cruz knew what he was doing, and just changed his mind at the last minute after fast track was guaranteed.

36 posted on 11/10/2015 4:00:58 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Theoria

If Trump or any other Republican candidate were President, they would want Fast Track authority. Now they’ll have it without the Dems being able to block it. Cruz is for Free Trade. Over 5 million jobs in his state of Texas depend on it. He does not support the trade bills being negotiated by Obama because they cede our sovereignty to a panel of reps from all the foreign nations.

To say something that made so much sense was “never going to be” is like saying just give up on every sound principle because there is going to be opposition.


37 posted on 11/10/2015 4:05:08 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God,,,, We can elect Ted Cruz!)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Republicans have always voted for Fast Track. Almost every President has had it for the last 80 years, but somehow now Ted Cruz is the sole reason it passed. Get real! I actually support TPA, but not TPP.


38 posted on 11/10/2015 4:08:59 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God,,,, We can elect Ted Cruz!)
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To: Michael.SF.

No modifications allowed.
Too much amnesty.

Bye bye Ben.


39 posted on 11/10/2015 4:12:30 PM PST by Flintlock (Our soapbox is gone, the ballot box stolen--we're left with the bullet box now.)
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To: conservativejoy
You support Cruz, and I get it. But, he supported TPA when Obama was pushing for it, and voted for it at the get go, then changed his mind later. He is a supporter or free trade, I disagree with that for various reasons.

Granting more authority to a Pres is crazy, from any party and TPA does that. A Pres only has the power to negotiate treaties, TPA is no such thing. The fact that he would even support that principle is telling.

40 posted on 11/10/2015 4:16:05 PM PST by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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