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"Russian .50-caliber machine gun and Iranian-stamped 12.75-mm ammunition"

Is that compatible?

1 posted on 10/17/2015 4:02:55 PM PDT by dynachrome
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To: dynachrome

Once again: conflating US with the government. I’m not shocked. You shocked?


2 posted on 10/17/2015 4:07:05 PM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: dynachrome

Probably a DShK,a pretty formidable weapon.The caliber matches that gun.


3 posted on 10/17/2015 4:08:08 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: dynachrome

Should be. Considering that .50 BMG is a tried and true round that has stood the test of time. John Browning got it right, more often than not. Both the ammo round and the machine gun that uses it.


4 posted on 10/17/2015 4:08:30 PM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: dynachrome

12.75mm = 0.501968 inches.


5 posted on 10/17/2015 4:11:04 PM PDT by moose07 (DMCS (Dit Me Cong San ) - Nah)
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To: dynachrome

Improvising.


7 posted on 10/17/2015 4:14:30 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: dynachrome

Iraqi Forces Add Russian Guns to US Tanks for ISIL Fight

http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/2015/10/15/iraq-russian-gun-iranian-ammo-found-us-origin-tank/73999398/


8 posted on 10/17/2015 4:16:09 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: dynachrome

Flexibility!!!


13 posted on 10/17/2015 4:29:51 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: dynachrome

It is probably a Russian 12.7mm machinegun (might actually be a Russian designed machinegun manufactured under license in Iran) and Iranian 12.7mm ammunition. Very compatible.

I wouldn’t get too excited about the coaxial machinegun and the ammunition. Sounds like a case of practical logistics. US M2HB .50 caliber ammunition might be harder for the Shia militia to get than the 12.7mm ammunition. So, dismount the M2, build an adaptor plate to mount the 12.7mm machinegun in the coaxial cradle (or just swap out the cradles entirely) and get back to work.

I would be concerned about the other technologies in the tank(ballistic computer, laser, turbine engine, etc.) but those horses are long since out of the barn. Happened the moment the Iraqis allowed the Shia militias (along with their Iranian advisors) access to the vehicles. There are probably a couple of the tanks already in Tehran being gone over by Iranian engineers.

From what I understand, the FMS version of these tanks does not have the US “green metal” armor package so that bit of technology may still be safe.

But with the Obama administration, who knows?


15 posted on 10/17/2015 4:51:26 PM PDT by Captain Rhino (Determined effort today forges tomorrow)
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“After US-led coalition airstrikes were forced to destroy about 10 M1A1 Abrams main battle tanks (MBTs) seized from the Iraqi Army by the Islamic State group, often called ISIL or ISIS, Washington is now grappling with the phenomenon of their voluntary transfer to Shiite forces battling in concert with Baghdad against the fanatical Sunni Caliphate.”

The thought of a Hezbollah or Isis flag flying on an Abrams makes me angry. I often wonder how we can spend billions on advanced hardware and not equip it with Lojack. Something like that could be integrated into the electronics of devices and be made integral & tamperproof. Seems like a no-brainer. Something low cost to add to tanks, APCs, anti-tank rockets and manpads. Heck, I would even add some C4 so that it explodes if taken out of theater.


21 posted on 10/17/2015 5:33:27 PM PDT by FreeInWV
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To: dynachrome

WTF! Are Shia militiamen doing with an Abrams!?


26 posted on 10/17/2015 6:50:25 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: dynachrome

Why the heck are we selling our main battle tank to ANYONE?


28 posted on 10/17/2015 8:14:08 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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“Anytime you do a foreign military sale, there’s a requirement that you do end-use monitoring, and it’s a violation if you do alterations,” Vice Adm. Joseph Rixey, director of the Pentagon’s Defense Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA) told Defense News.”

Thank you, Vice Admiral. Since you are illegally bombing Syria, you would know all about adhering to the rules and laws......


30 posted on 10/18/2015 7:12:49 AM PDT by realcleanguy
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To: dynachrome
"Russian .50-caliber machine gun and Iranian-stamped 12.75-mm ammunition"

Sounds like someone- not necessarily an IS or pro-Iranian supporter- stuck a 12,7mm Dashka or KPV on the external .50 mount on the Abrams.

I sort of suspect the Kurdish PeshMerga, who sort of prefer the American stuff to old Soviet/ChiCom material they've captured, but of course when they take their ammo from the dead bad guys, they don't get much choice.


31 posted on 10/21/2015 10:00:35 AM PDT by archy
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