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To: roadcat
Have you used a GUI-based computer made within the last few decades?

Xerox. Not Jobs.

A lot of design studios use Apple products for production illustration, design, and printing. They wouldn't exist were it not for Steve Jobs.

Because the idea of different fonts, etc is just too brilliant for anyone else to think of.

You've seen a lot of movies and read illustrated books and magazines? Tangible.

I may be mistaken about this, but I think Thomas Edison invented movies, and Gutenberg invented the printing press.

35 posted on 10/08/2015 10:56:42 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp; Swordmaker
No use arguing with you, you don't operate on logic and are all over the place. Akin to saying NASA didn't invent sending a man to the Moon because the Chinese were sending little rockets into the night sky hundreds of years ago. Wake up, man, and stop dredging for nonsensical explanations to try to bolster your arguments. It's like listening to my three-year-old grandkids.

Thomas Edison did not create digital movies. One reason digital movies are popular is because of Pixar. They did pioneering work in making a sea change to digital movies and projection. Oh, Steve Jobs had a hand in that, as Pixar was going no where and Jobs built up the company from practically nothing. Jobs was focused on creating the digital technology at Pixar, while letting the team there be focused on creating the stories.

Same goes for Gutenberg. Did he drive digital technology in allowing magazines to blend colors, photos and fonts before they're printed in multiple layers? I don't think so. A couple of my daughters worked in the magazine business, most of their publishing was done with Apple Macs. Gutenberg didn't create them.

Then there's Xerox. There is so much bullcrap about them creating the Mac, so I won't even go into it. As Swordmaker explained, Xerox did not create the GUI architecture that Apple created.

37 posted on 10/08/2015 12:36:27 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: DiogenesLamp
Xerox. Not Jobs.

Xerox's SmallTalk Star GUI interface bears very little relationship to the GUI that Apple developed under Steve Jobs. Apple invented the drag and drop LIVE Icon system that would open the app of a document dropped on the icon that you drop it on, the draggable, overlapping windows, drop-down, nested menus, the infinitely reachable top menu, and contextual menus.

Because the idea of different fonts, etc is just too brilliant for anyone else to think of.

But they did not. . . They were using fixed fonts in slugs. Sorry, you have no leg to stand on here. The ability to do layout on a computer was a big thing. . . Steve Jobs did it.

I may be mistaken about this, but I think Thomas Edison invented movies, and Gutenberg invented the printing press.

I see, Gutenberg did not invent the printing press, he invented hand carved wooden movable type, which made printing books far more economical then carving every page into a block and doing the printing with a wooden block that allowed maybe a hundred imprints before the block was worn beyond use. . . but you equate that with him inventing the hot-lead Linotype machine that was made obsolete by the modern computer with scalable font systems essentially invented by Steve Jobs and Apple? You are delusional.

40 posted on 10/08/2015 3:01:09 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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