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Flashback: Obama was 'quite religious in Islam'
WND ^ | Sep 20, 2015 | Aaron Klein

Posted on 09/21/2015 11:00:52 AM PDT by Ray76

Obama has long denied he was ever a Muslim. In 2008, his presidential campaign website stated: “Senator Obama has never been a Muslim, was not raised as a Muslim, and is a committed Christian.”

But as WND reported, public records in Indonesia listed Obama as a Muslim during his early years, and a number of childhood friends claimed to the media Obama was once a mosque-attending Muslim.

Indeed, in Obama’s autobiography, “Dreams From My Father,” he acknowledged studying the Quran and describes the public school as “a Muslim school.”

“In the Muslim school, the teacher wrote to tell mother I made faces during Quranic studies,” wrote Obama.

In 2008, the Indonesian media provided accounts of Obama’s childhood Islamic studies, some describing him as a religious Muslim.

Speaking to the country’s Kaltim Post, Tine Hahiyary, who was principal of Obama’s school while he was enrolled there, said she recalls he studied the Quran in Arabic.

Originally Obama’s official campaign site in 2008 had a page titled “Obama has never been a Muslim, and is a committed Christian.” The page stated, “Obama never prayed in a mosque. He has never been a Muslim, was not raised a Muslim, and is a committed Christian who attends the United Church of Christ.”

But the campaign changed its tune when it issued a “practicing Muslim” clarification to the Los Angeles Times.

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1 posted on 09/21/2015 11:00:52 AM PDT by Ray76
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To: Ray76

If we could find anyone that knew him prior to politics maybe we could ask them.


2 posted on 09/21/2015 11:02:39 AM PDT by rfreedom4u (Chris Stevens won't be running for president.)
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To: Ray76

Is Zero a Christian ?

“Not proven.”


3 posted on 09/21/2015 11:02:53 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: rfreedom4u

The press could have and could still find plenty of people if they wanted to.

Didn’t they dig up something about Ted Cruz in grade school?


4 posted on 09/21/2015 11:05:03 AM PDT by dp0622
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To: Ray76

What’s a “practicing Muslim”, they behead mannequins?


5 posted on 09/21/2015 11:05:28 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Ray76

Yeah, and Hitler was never a Nazi.....


6 posted on 09/21/2015 11:06:35 AM PDT by EagleUSA (Liberalism removes the significance of everything.)
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To: dp0622

“Didn’t they dig up something about Ted Cruz in grade school?”

Trump’s grandfather invested in a hotel in the Yukon that may have rented rooms to prostitutes, so Trump is definitely out.


7 posted on 09/21/2015 11:09:51 AM PDT by Jim Noble (You walk into the room like a camel and then you frown)
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To: Ray76
Watch how fast Barack "evolves" once outta office.

...and I'm not talking about his sexual preference!

8 posted on 09/21/2015 11:11:02 AM PDT by TexasCajun (#BlackViolenceMatters)
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To: EagleUSA

This is being discussed as if he were dead and unable to state his own position..the MSM needs to cross examine him on this issue if they think it such a serious issue.


9 posted on 09/21/2015 11:11:26 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: Jim Noble

dont biden, hillary, bernie and that other nut have ANYTHING in their past that could be reported on?

geez, you’d think there was only one primary going on.


10 posted on 09/21/2015 11:12:39 AM PDT by dp0622
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To: Ray76
If we want to reopen Barry's religious past, we would have to revisit Wright's TUCC. Then we'd have to revisit the unsolved murder of TUCC's Choir Director, Donald Young. And if you revisit Donald Young's murder, then you have to revisit an unsavory character, (and a wild limo ride in Gurnee), lost phone records at the Chicago Police Department, and Beau Biden's phony use of extradition to Delaware of a "detractor" to the 2008 Obama campaign. But we don't want to do that, do we? It is SO 2007. But then, Speaker Hastert is suffering from his past eventually catching up with him, but then again, he's a Republican. Where is the objective press? ::::crickets::::
11 posted on 09/21/2015 11:14:19 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: Ray76

Deliberate lies designed to get him elected. It worked.


12 posted on 09/21/2015 11:29:47 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country)
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To: I want the USA back

Why does the media raise such a raucous indignation when somebody thinks that Obama is a Muslim?

Among the Jews the religious lineage is transmitted through the mother and among the Muslims through the father.

Obama’s father was Muslim and according to Islamic law, Obama was Muslim at birth and was educated as a Muslim by his Muslim stepfather. That is the reason Obama found the Muslim prayers the most beautiful sound in the world and always calls the Koran Holy while he never refers as Holy when mentioning the Bible.

Apostasy is punished by death by Islamic law, unless is a fake conversion to another faith in order to advance the expansion of the Islamic caliphate through the world, that is called taqiyya and is one of the main moral tenets of their religion.

According to Obama he converted to Christianity by the Rev Wright, another fake Christian and follower of the Black liberation theology, a corruption of the Gospels with the main Marxist tenants and praxis. Rev Wright’s sermons were characterized by their hatred towards the United States and the White people. Wright told the Obamas, “don’t Bless America, rather ask God Damn America”.

The media tries to deny the unquestionable fact that Obama was Muslim until his dubious conversion to Christianity. Since the Muslims have not publicly condemned his apostasy it might be assumed that Obama is a taqiyya president and his actions confirm it.


13 posted on 09/21/2015 11:55:35 AM PDT by Dqban22
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To: dp0622

The press?! HAHAHAHAHA That’s a good one!


14 posted on 09/21/2015 12:06:42 PM PDT by rfreedom4u (Chris Stevens won't be running for president.)
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To: rfreedom4u
Putin's channel in Russia tells more truths lol
15 posted on 09/21/2015 12:10:37 PM PDT by dp0622
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To: Ray76

So...Zero is not a muzzie? Taqqiya? or, Apostasy?

Inquiring minds could care less. We just want him gone; in prison, preferred, but at least gone from the White Hut.


16 posted on 09/21/2015 1:07:53 PM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2017; I pray we make it that long.)
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To: SERKIT

Good post!


17 posted on 09/21/2015 1:29:37 PM PDT by Ray76
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To: Ray76
Obama is not a religious man.....period. His greatest religious training was in Islamic studies while a child. After that, nothing until Reverend Wright talked him into claiming he was a Christian in order to pursue a political future. Obama’s lies and decisions prove that he is not a Christian.

The embarrassing fawning he received during his election and first term, especially, convinced him that he is, indeed, the one who is worshiped.

The fairy tale story of his life that he put out in the beginning of his political run is just that....a fairy tale.

18 posted on 09/21/2015 1:30:27 PM PDT by Swede Girl
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To: fieldmarshaldj

See what you think:

1. “The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam”

2. “The sweetest sound I know is the Muslim call to prayer”

3. “We will convey our deep appreciation for the Islamic faith, which has done so much over the centuries to shape the world — including in my own country.”

4. “As a student of history, I also know civilization’s debt to Islam.”

5. “Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance.”

6. “Islam has always been part of America”

7. “we will encourage more Americans to study in Muslim communities”

8. “These rituals remind us of the principles that we hold in common, and Islam’s role in advancing justice, progress, tolerance, and the dignity of all human beings.”

9. “America and Islam are not exclusive and need not be in competition. Instead, they overlap, and share common principles of justice and progress, tolerance and the dignity of all human beings.”

10. “I made it clear that America is not – and will never be – at war with Islam.”

11. “Islam is not part of the problem in combating violent extremism – it is an important part of promoting peace.”

12. “So I have known Islam on three continents before coming to the region where it was first revealed”

13. “In ancient times and in our times, Muslim communities have been at the forefront of innovation and education.”

14. “Throughout history, Islam has demonstrated through words and deeds the possibilities of religious tolerance and racial equality.”

15. “Ramadan is a celebration of a faith known for great diversity and racial equality”

16. “The Holy Koran tells us, ‘O mankind! We have created you male and a female; and we have made you into nations and tribes so that you may know one another.’”

17. “I look forward to hosting an Iftar dinner celebrating Ramadan here at the White House later this week, and wish you a blessed month.”

18. “We’ve seen those results in generations of Muslim immigrants – farmers and factory workers, helping to lay the railroads and build our cities, the Muslim innovators who helped build some of our highest skyscrapers and who helped unlock the secrets of our universe.”

19. “That experience guides my conviction that partnership between America and Islam must be based on what Islam is, not what it isn’t. And I consider it part of my responsibility as president of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear.”

20. “I also know that Islam has always been a part of America’s story.”

Here he is on Christianity:

1. “Whatever we once were, we are no longer a Christian nation”

2. “We do not consider ourselves a Christian nation.”

3. “Which passages of scripture should guide our public policy? Should we go with Leviticus, which suggests slavery is OK and that eating shellfish is an abomination? Or we could go with Deuteronomy, which suggests stoning your child if he strays from the faith?”

4. “Even those who claim the Bible’s inerrancy make distinctions between Scriptural edicts, sensing that some passages – the Ten Commandments, say, or a belief in Christ’s divinity – are central to Christian faith, while others are more culturally specific and may be modified to accommodate modern life.”

5. “The American people intuitively understand this, which is why the majority of Catholics practice birth control and some of those opposed to gay marriage nevertheless are opposed to a Constitutional amendment to ban it. Religious leadership need not accept such wisdom in counseling their flocks, but they should recognize this wisdom in their politics.”

6. From Obama’s book, The Audacity of Hope: “I am not willing to have the state deny American citizens a civil union that confers equivalent rights on such basic matters as hospital visitation or health insurance coverage simply because the people they love are of the same sex—nor am I willing to accept a reading of the Bible that considers an obscure line in Romans to be more defining of Christianity than the Sermon on the Mount.”

7. Obama’s response when asked what his definition of sin is: “Being out of alignment with my values.”

8. “If all it took was someone proclaiming I believe Jesus Christ and that he died for my sins, and that was all there was to it, people wouldn’t have to keep coming to church, would they.”

9. “This is something that I’m sure I’d have serious debates with my fellow Christians about. I think that the difficult thing about any religion, including Christianity, is that at some level there is a call to evangelize and prostelytize. There’s the belief, certainly in some quarters, that people haven’t embraced Jesus Christ as their personal savior that they’re going to hell.”

10. “I find it hard to believe that my God would consign four-fifths of the world to hell. I can’t imagine that my God would allow some little Hindu kid in India who never interacts with the Christian faith to somehow burn for all eternity. That’s just not part of my religious makeup.”

11. “I don’t presume to have knowledge of what happens after I die. But I feel very strongly that whether the reward is in the here and now or in the hereafter, the aligning myself to my faith and my values is a good thing.”

12. “I’ve said this before, and I know this raises questions in the minds of some evangelicals. I do not believe that my mother, who never formally embraced Christianity as far as I know … I do not believe she went to hell.”

13. “Those opposed to abortion cannot simply invoke God’s will–they have to explain why abortion violates some principle that is accessible to people of all faiths.”

14. On his support for civil unions for gay couples: “If people find that controversial then I would just refer them to the Sermon on the Mount.”

15. “You got into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton Administration, and the Bush Administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”

16. “In our household, the Bible, the Koran and the Bhagavad Gita sat on the shelf alongside books of Greek and Norse and African mythology”

17. “On Easter or Christmas Day, my mother might drag me to church, just as she dragged me to the Buddhist temple, the Chinese New Year celebration, the Shinto shrine, and ancient Hawaiian burial sites.”

18. “We have Jews, Muslims, Hindus, atheists, agnostics, Buddhists, and their own path to grace is one that we have to revere and respect as much as our own”

19. “All of us have a responsibility to work for the day when the mothers of Israelis and Palestinians can see their children grow up without fear; when the Holy Land of the three great faiths is the place of peace that God intended it to be; when Jerusalem is a secure and lasting home for Jews and Christians and Muslims, and a place for all of the children of Abraham to mingle peacefully together as in the story of Isra— (applause) — as in the story of Isra, when Moses, Jesus, and Mohammed, peace be upon them, joined in prayer. (Applause.)”

20. “I believe that there are many paths to the same place, and that is a belief that there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people.”


19 posted on 09/21/2015 7:32:26 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Trump is not our candidate, he is our Special Forces unit.)
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