Posted on 08/24/2015 7:20:27 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
If there was a continual reference to Jeb Bush and another candidate (by this candidate's supporters and/or so on), would you then be persuaded to feel that this GOP presidential election cycle is only between The Donald and Jeb Bush, or would you think that there are other good candidates available, as in Ted Cruz, Ben Carson, Carly Fiorina, Scott Walker or others?
Must this be an either/or format?
If so, is this a choice between what could be called a high-energy P.T. Barnum-like atmosphere and a low-energy campaign or are there other options available?
Is it now a choice to being between exciting reality TV or to some what could be said to be boring TV?
Is this a situation where it has been posited by supporters saying their guy is the best and the other guy is the worst and there are no other options available?
Would Cruz, Carson, Fiorina, Walker and others themselves say that one must choose between either The Donald or Jeb Bush, or would they say that there are clearly other excellent options available on the GOP side of the nomination process?
If these GOP candidates have been referred to in a positive light by another candidate for the GOP side, is/are the reference/references to them being made in such a way that they are also good candidates worth of consideration to vote for, or is it only a passing reference?
The establishment can manipulate the choices you have once your state has its primary/convention.
Oh, now we have some on this thread saying that the GOPe is trying to mess things up by having a host of GOPe candidates running, but you say that the GOP is trying to split the vote between Cruz and Trump.
Which is it?
How many times will the theories keep morphing and mutating?
Man oh man...
Candidates that still think they have a chance of winning
Walker
Carson
Rubio
Paul
The rest are either running for a VP (Carly) or using this round as practice for a future run. Forget it Perry. And Linda you have zero chance now and forever.
politicians in general “want the issues, not the solution”.
The issue allows them to beat their chest and huff and puff yet still do nothing.
A solution is not helpful to fundraising or sustaining a career.
It is like a treatment to a disease vs a cure to a disease. Politicians see more profits to treatments to issues not cures.
Stopped clock occasionally right... and Jeb Bush?
Well, some things he says sound plausible, but it’s hard to take him seriously in terms of comprehensive policy, especially on immigration and border issues. So, if you’d like to extend the analogy to things he says right... like Obama bad, conservative economics, etc., I guess it can be done for Jeb, too.
Jeb’s a lot better than Jesse, but he would be (IMHO) a poor choice for President, because he’s the GOPe choice on many issues (which is why he has financial backing) and very pro-illegal alien and open borders.
One of my elderly neighbors said she thought Ted CRuz was just another rabble rouser till she got a chance to see Rafael Cruz speak.
She decided that he was unlikey to raise a bad son so she started paying attention to Ted Cruz. Now she says she thinks a little righteous rabble needs to be roused.
In detail she speaks of the fall of morality in America that means we must have laws to force people to do the right thing when people used to do the right thing anyway. Unfortunately it made it easier to impose laws that force people to do the wrong thing as well. Things like taxpayer funding of abortion and driving businessmen out of business for standing up for their beliefs.
She also like Ted Cruz’s strong 10th amendment stance and his talk of using restraint and wisdom in picking which wars we fight and allies to support.
Noe we have speculation to add to the mix.
We first hear on this thread that The Donald is being opposed by the GOPe trying to mess things up by having a host of GOPe candidate running, then it is the GOPe trying to split the vote between Cruz and Trump supporters - along with Trump being decisive, but if he keeps continually changing his mind then he still knows what he is doing and is decisive even when doing so!
Now Trump will have 50%+_ at years end.
And Trump can leap tall buildings in a single bound, too?
The smartest, the bestest, too?
That the GOPe is running many impotent candidates to split the vote ‘their’ way is not up for argument.
It’s clear to anyone with two eyes.
Well, and doesn’t have a paycheck that depends on one of the uniparty candidates winning.
Dunno. Dead people have been elected several times.
What more devastating message could we send to the democrats than telling their 'best' isn't as good as a corpse?
And a wisely chosen Veep could 'do it for Donald'!
Jesse Jackass rose to prominence with the blood of Martin Luther King literally on his hands, and used his memory to ram through anything he could convince his peeps Dr King would have favored.
No reason that meme can't be used for good.
Is Jeb still in the running?
Politics as usual is being given a big “thumbs down” by the rank and file Republican voters, and by Americans in general.
“Money won’t buy back, your youth when you’re old,
a friend when you’re lonely, or a love grown cold.”(”Satisfied Mind”, written by Jack Rhodes and Red Hayes)
And “cold” is the operative factor here.
It cost a LOT of money to win the Republican nomination. It’s not only about ideas, it’s about money.
President Gingrich. NOPE.
President Pat Buchanan. NOPE.
Without money, you’re gone.
Only 2 candidates with 100 million+, until that changes, there’s only 2 candidates.
after the first three, I think the rest are just in it to pad their super pac coffers (ala Clinton) or a government job.
Can we station them all at the north pole?
But...but...if The Donald were to do that, it would be different to his supporters, right, because it’s, I mean, The Donald!
He is decisive and he knows what he is doing even were he to change his mind 20 times since June, right?
Anything could happen, but I think it is. Trump has much of the anti-GOPe support. And it looks to me that the GOPe is throwing their weight behind Bush.
Unless one of those two self-destructs, it’s hard to imagine one of the other’s rising from the pack.
I agree 100%. Trump can run circles around any of the other candidates. And when it comes to the economy, the rest don't even have a clue what direction to take us.
Until Bush is completely out of the race, yes, it is only between Trump and Bush.
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Ted Cruz appears to aiming for a January-2016 peak ... a deliberate trajectory ...
I like Donald Trump, but experience tells me that he can’t possibly sustain a 25 % rating between now and January-2016 ...
However, Trump will definetly kick Yeb’s RINO-GOPe ass in the next few months ...
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How is Rubio splitting the vote in Florida helping Jeb Bush, if the GOPe’s goal is to get Jeb Bush in office?
And how does the scenario of Perry splitting the vote in Texas against Cruz and thereby hurting this anti-GOPe candidate (Cruz) way down the road from now play at all in reality if Perry is running out of money right now and can’t even pay his staff?
He’s not going to take donations.
Well he’s only going to take small donations.
Well he’ll take large donations but only without strings attached.
Stay tuned....
I'm voting for Donald Trump.
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