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Do You Trust The liberal CNN/ORC polling outfit? How about Rasmussen, ABC News/WaPo or NBC News/WSJ?
8/22/2015 | Laissez-Faire Capitalist

Posted on 08/22/2015 12:24:48 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

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BTW, upon closer examination into the internals, it appears that CNN/ORC is not just polling Orcs but is also polling Uruk-hai as well. LOL. I just thought I would throw that in there to instill some levity...
1 posted on 08/22/2015 12:24:49 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist; All

What happened to the Washington Post being called the Washington Compost?

If it is still and always has been the Washington Compost, should their polls be trusted?


2 posted on 08/22/2015 12:26:57 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

The problem is that ALL the pollsters are having trouble adapting to a world where people don’t automatically answer their phones, and phone technology has changed.

Following their bad performance in the 2014 midterms, Nate Silver wrote that pollsters are going to have to develop new methods.


3 posted on 08/22/2015 12:31:07 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I have no faith in any of them anymore. I can also see that our political system is worthless and no election will change much of anything.

We are no better than the Israelites, who after seeing the great works of God, turned their backs on Him and continued to go their own way. Like them, we are going to learn the hard way.


4 posted on 08/22/2015 12:31:43 PM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Polls which produce results that harsh my narrative are not to be trusted until they agree with me, then they are reliable. However, when most polls are pointing in the same direction, like a weather vane, rather than double down in denial if they don’t agree with me, I begrudgingly deign they might have a case.


5 posted on 08/22/2015 12:31:53 PM PDT by sparklite2 (Voting is acting white.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Don't know exactly what you are referring to, but I look at it this way - the press can only cover up so much, so there's got to be a little useful information in every poll.

If you take into consideration the timing of the poll, demographic info, the sample size, the manner in which the questions are phrased, who's sponsored the poll, etc. its possible to glean some truth from anything.

6 posted on 08/22/2015 12:32:10 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

ALL polls should be taken with a mountain of salt.
There is a reason that professionals ask to see the internals. How was the question asked? What methodology was used to determine margin of error? How and when was the poll conducted?

I’ve always said: “Give me control of the questions and the polling sample and I’ll have 60% of Americans voting for Hitler.”


7 posted on 08/22/2015 12:32:32 PM PDT by brothers4thID (Be professional, be courteous, and have a plan to kill everyone in the room.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I don’t trust ANY poll that doesn’t post/show the QUESTION along with the answer


8 posted on 08/22/2015 12:33:48 PM PDT by This_far
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist; MUDDOG
It could even be worse numbers for Trump's rivals, and it probably is.


9 posted on 08/22/2015 12:34:19 PM PDT by Red Steel (Ted Cruz: 'I'm a Big Fan of Donald Trump')
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

This is Free Republic, where Scott Brown for President was once written, and Karl Rove was a magnificent Bastard. It’s where GWB was cheered, the Republican Congress was anticipated, and Obama was going to lose to Romney.

Which way does the wind blow?


10 posted on 08/22/2015 12:34:28 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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Yes. I trust them as much as I trust the IRS to fairly evaluate applications by `non-profit organizations’ for exempt status.
As much as I trust: Fox news to handle a debate, Brian Williams’ war stories, Hillary’s excuses, etc.


11 posted on 08/22/2015 12:35:48 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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Precisely. It was the German Conservative Party that put Hitler in office and has given conservatives a bad name since


12 posted on 08/22/2015 12:36:18 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

E) None of the above.


13 posted on 08/22/2015 12:37:02 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("Nobody Said I Was Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

There is only one poll that counts.


14 posted on 08/22/2015 12:37:52 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current device...)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Not sure about CNN/ORC but I really am suspicious of Reuters and PPP.

One thing, at least one thing, to watch for is the mix of Republicans and Independents “leaning Republican” in the poll. That mix can make a huge change in the results. And many polls utilize Independents in both Republican and Democrat polling.

Personally I would like to see them poll “Republican Primary Voters” exclusively.

This is not a popularity contest in the conventional sense. We are trying to predict the winners and losers in the upcoming Primaries. Do Independents get to vote in the Republican Primary? I doubt it but I don’t really know. But if they don’t then what are they doing in the poll?


15 posted on 08/22/2015 12:40:08 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: sparklite2
However, when most polls are pointing in the same direction, like a weather vane, rather than double down in denial if they don’t agree with me, I begrudgingly deign they might have a case.

Like a weather vain, the news media is pro Obama. So you would deign that they might have a case??

16 posted on 08/22/2015 12:41:36 PM PDT by FreeReign
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CNN/ORC: Liberal back in 2007,2008 and 2011 and 2012 - but trustworthy now!!! Horray for Trump!

Fox News poll at the top: I thought that Fox News was full of nothing but anti-Trump shills? How then is the Fox News poll suddenly trustworthy alongside all of that rhetoric?

And Rasmussen? I thought for some time now that it was nothing more than an arm of the RNC and the GOP establishment?

Do you now trust their polls on Trump?


17 posted on 08/22/2015 12:42:27 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Opinion poll are like climate science. The results are what whoever is paying for it wants.


18 posted on 08/22/2015 12:42:55 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: InterceptPoint

But Trump recently lauded PPP.


19 posted on 08/22/2015 12:42:56 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Polls are always right when they say my guy is winning. Otherwise they’re crap.


20 posted on 08/22/2015 12:43:32 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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