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Need Some Naval History Help

Posted on 08/18/2015 4:21:48 PM PDT by Crapgame

Freepers I am turning to you all for assistance in preparing a class lecture on the importance of Mahan's "The Influence of Sea Power Upon History". Specifically I was hoping one of you well read Freepers can direct me to a good, excerpt or summary of Mahan's "The Influence of Sea Power Upon History". Something I can hand out in class. I have read his many articles but none of them seem to cover the major points of his theories succinctly. So I am wondering now if there is a good excerpt of his major work that you all could point me to.


TOPICS: Books/Literature; Education; History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: imperialism; mahan; navy
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1 posted on 08/18/2015 4:21:48 PM PDT by Crapgame
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To: Crapgame

Write it up yourself and publish it.


2 posted on 08/18/2015 4:26:54 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current device...)
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To: Crapgame

https://archive.org/details/influenceofseapo01mahauoft


3 posted on 08/18/2015 4:27:51 PM PDT by stylin19a (obama = Fredo Smart)
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To: Crapgame
Shulman, Mark Russell. "The Influence of Mahan upon Sea Power." 'Reviews in American History' 1991

Haven't read it, but it sounds promising.

I was only able to find on-line issues back to 1995, however.

4 posted on 08/18/2015 4:32:01 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: stylin19a

https://history.state.gov/milestones/1866-1898/mahan


5 posted on 08/18/2015 4:33:54 PM PDT by stylin19a (obama = Fredo Smart)
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To: stylin19a

Thanks!! That is a handy reference. If no excerpts exist, at least I can dig through that file. I hadn’t seen that version in my searches and it looks like it might be a good resource for me. Thanks again, I knew I could count on Freepers.....


6 posted on 08/18/2015 4:35:34 PM PDT by Crapgame (What should be taught in our schools? American Exceptionalism, not cultural Marxism...)
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To: Crapgame

It all started as a bet between George Washington and Xenu over how many chicks Joseph Smith would con into marrying him.


7 posted on 08/18/2015 4:39:31 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Crapgame
A review of the book by T. R. Roosevelt

Mahan.

About two and a half pages.

8 posted on 08/18/2015 4:43:57 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Crapgame

btw, I loved you in “Kelly’s Heroes”.

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/13529/13529-h/13529-h.htm


9 posted on 08/18/2015 4:47:17 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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To: Crapgame

Summary:

Having a powerful navy good.

Not having a powerful navy bad.


10 posted on 08/18/2015 4:55:59 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Crapgame
Mahan had read Hasford Mackinder's "Heartland of Eurasia" thesis---which said that whoever controls the heartland of Eurasia controls the world (i.e., Ukraine to France) and that big land armies were needed for this. He contrasted it with Theodor Momenson's "History of Rome" which (correctly) argued that Rome's navy was the key to its success. He added his own flourishes:

You not only need a big navy, but need to be able to quickly mass your forces, hence don't have "the Russian problem" of four navies unable to concentrate easily (i.e., build the Panama Canal).

Once you mass, use heavy firepower to defeat your enemy (big battleships).

A navy allows you to project power anywhere there is a coast, hence England was able to run most of the world with a land army of under 150,000 men most of the time, because England could place those forces almost anywhere quickly. For ex., in the Crimean War, the Brits shipped 50,000 cannonballs in the siege of Sebastopol from England FASTER than the Russians could supply Sebastopol by land . . . in their own country.

11 posted on 08/18/2015 5:05:08 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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When I was in college way back in the 60s, I remember “Sailor Mahan” being mentioned often both in history and geography classes.

Until I read your post I could not remember a single thing about him. Then it hit me that he considered control of “The World Island” as essential, important, whatever I can’t remember.

Also now remember that he pushed for free travel of navies through such choke points as the straights of Malacca and the Dardanelles.

That is about all I can remember.


12 posted on 08/18/2015 5:12:20 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: Crapgame

Have you seen this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Thayer_Mahan


13 posted on 08/18/2015 5:38:32 PM PDT by DugwayDuke
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To: LS

Your comments about the cost of shipping cannon balls by water compared to the cost of shipping them by land were well taken.

After the discovery of coal in Wyoming, it was discovered that it was less expensive to ship the coal by rail to Duluth/Superior off load the coal and load them on ships (on the Great Lakes they are called ore boats-even if they haul coal) transit the locks at Sault St. Marie and off load at the power plants in the Detroit, Michigan area than to ship the coal through Chicago and to their final destination.
The opening of the Erie Canal reduced the cost of shipping grain from Western New York and points west to New York City by 80 to 90%.


14 posted on 08/18/2015 5:38:54 PM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: Crapgame

Did historian Samuel Elliot Morrison write anything on Mahon? I recall that he did in one of his major works.


15 posted on 08/18/2015 5:52:36 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Maine Mariner
The cost of shipping grain is the reason for the whiskey business in the Appalachians and points west. Shipping grain wasn't economical. Shipping whiskey was.
16 posted on 08/18/2015 6:25:11 PM PDT by Hugin ("First thing--get yourself a firearm!" Sheriff Ed Galt)
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To: Hugin

Excellent observation.


17 posted on 08/18/2015 6:28:35 PM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: Crapgame

Bookmark.


18 posted on 08/18/2015 7:09:18 PM PDT by SunTzuWu
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To: Crapgame; blueyon; KitJ; T Minus Four; xzins; CMS; The Sailor; ab01; txradioguy; Jet Jaguar; ...

Ping.


19 posted on 08/18/2015 7:10:56 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Crapgame

There is an excellent summary of Mahan’s impact, his life, his thinking, and his political role, all set within the context of the Nineteenth Century, laid out nicely in Barbara Tuchman’s well-known and very available book, “The Proud Tower.” available in pretty much every library in America.


20 posted on 08/18/2015 7:22:54 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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