A Simple Fix for Drunken Driving

The Wall Street Journal ^ | Aug. 14, 2015 | KEITH HUMPHREYS

[conservatism_IS_compassion]

Dr. Humphreys is a professor of psychiatry at Stanford University and a former senior policy adviser in the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy. He has been an unpaid adviser to government officials interested in adopting 24/7 Sobriety

This is excerpted, as I assume is necessary. The whole article is important, if it pans out the way it looks.

The program it describes seems to work on a principle which also relates to criminal behavior and other addictions than alcohol, as well. Namely, that penalties don’t have to be draconian but they do have to be swift and sure. And I wonder if the signal benefits of having a father rather than just a single mom might not relate to the added swiftness and sureness - not severity - of discipline.

I was impressed by the article.

[IronJack]

If it’s this effective for drinkers, it might also work for druggies. Pass a piss test, you’re fine. Fail and jail.

[humblegunner]

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Ha ha ha ha no.

[Fiddlstix]

Interesting. Seems like a good plan.

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

This would take care of the part of a DWI that has always troubled me. In telling someone not to drive you are effectively placing them under house arrest. And since this usually results in the loss of a job that gives them a great deal of time and an excuse to drink.

[conservatism_IS_compassion]

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no.

I can relate. I found the article in the dead-tree Journal, and found the whole article by searching for the title.

I just hated to excerpt the thing, because this sounds like a possible game-changer for more than one social problem.

[tet68]

Reminds me of an Adams family
cartoon, a person driving down the highway
passing a sign that says “Drunk driving laws
strictly enforced’.

And hanging from each light pole was a drunk driver
in a human shaped cage.

[oh8eleven]

Every morning and evening, for an average of five months, they visit a police facility to take a breathalyzer test
People who get DWIs usually get what they deserve, but two visits a day for months on end does seem to be excessive.

[Feckless]

I do all of my drinking at home....

That's where all of the reasons are.

[conservatism_IS_compassion]

In telling someone not to drive you are effectively placing them under house arrest. And since this usually results in the loss of a job that gives them a great deal of time and an excuse to drink.

I don’t know how to argue with that.

[WKTimpco]

There should be a rule: no WSJ-based threads unless the poster gives a synopsis of the entire article.

[conservatism_IS_compassion]

People who get DWIs usually get what they deserve, but two visits a day for months on end does seem to be excessive.

Maybe the visits could start out the way the article describes - and after a month or so they could visit a local clinic or something. But if this system works, fixing it should IMHO be done with caution.

[bgill]

Just as long as they draw the line at chocoholics.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

I’m not registering with the WSJ. Chamber of Commerce whore.

[WKTimpco]

...except for ones like this which is not an excerpt.

[cripplecreek]

I fixed it.

I quit drinking and the problem no longer existed. Plus I’m seldom out and around when the bulk of the drunk driving is going on.

[elcid1970]

Off topic, but in my fave Addams cartoon the family watches a wild thunderstorm through the living room window. Skies darken, rain spatters down, winds are whipping the trees, lightning is crashing everywhere, and Gomez Addams smiles & says,

“This is one of those days that just makes you feel good to be alive!”

;^)

[Alberta's Child]

It's worth noting that the scene described in this article took place in South Dakota. That state probably ranks among the lowest in the U.S. in almost any social pathology, crime, etc.

I've said for a long time that a focus on drunk driving may not be a wise use of law-enforcement resources. I'd much prefer that governments address any problems with bad drivers, period -- regardless of what else is going on with them.

[GraceG]

If it’s this effective for drinkers, it might also work for druggies. Pass a piss test, you’re fine. Fail and jail.

But we dare link drug / alcohol test to if they get an EBT/SNAP and we are called racist...

When it could EASILY be argued that driving is more of a right than EBT/SNAP.

[conservatism_IS_compassion]

Synopsis: the system works great, reduces other alcohol related problems by about 10%, and a version of it has been tried for some cocaine users and seems to be helpful. And maybe drunks don’t necessarily need shrinks.