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Scott Walker and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Stadium Deal
Ricochet ^ | 8/13/2015 | John Gabriel

Posted on 08/15/2015 9:07:50 AM PDT by conservativejoy

Two days ago, I praised Gov. Scott Walker’s quiet conservatism. Today, I’ll criticize his inconsistency. The Milwaukee Bucks decided they needed a new basketball arena and they told the government to pay for it. If politicos didn’t cough up $250 million, the NBA warned that the Bucks might leave Wisconsin. Nice team you have here, Milwaukee. It’d be a shame if something happened to it…

Taxpayers would rightly be furious if a private business demanded they fund a supermarket, an office building, or a strip mall — why on earth should they send their hard-earned money to millionaire athletes and billionaire owners? But, like most politicians of both parties, Walker quickly knuckled under to a threat from a major sports league:

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R) signed legislation Wednesday to spend $250 million from taxpayers on a new arena for the Milwaukee Bucks basketball team — a deal he has championed for months despite fierce opposition from fiscal conservatives who usually agree with him.

The team’s ownership group — which includes one of Walker’s top campaign fundraisers — had threatened to move the Bucks to another state if the taxpayer financing did not come through. Walker said he did not want Wisconsin to lose the millions of dollars in taxes it collects on player and staff salaries, along with the other perks that come with having a professional basketball team in the state.

“The return on investment is 3 to 1 on this, so we think this is a good, solid move as a good steward of the taxpayers’ money here in Wisconsin,” Walker said Wednesday morning after he signed the legislation. “This is just simple mathematics.”

…The team’s investors pitched building a new arena in downtown Milwaukee that would anchor a new entertainment district, revitalizing that part of the city and creating more jobs. The total cost has been pegged at $500 million. Kohl agreed to chip in $100 million, with the new owners paying at least $150 million and Wisconsin taxpayers picking up the remaining $250 million.

Walker’s math is based on the team actually leaving Milwaukee, which isn’t close to a sure thing. The San Francisco Giants threatened to leave if the city didn’t build them a new stadium. The famously profligate city called their bluff and the Giants found a way to build it without tax funds. The same is happening in Los Angeles for an insanely expensive football stadium. If these extremely liberal cities won’t bow to the cronies, why should Walker?

In addition, study after study has shown that sports owners’ promises of “economic impact” rarely if ever pan out.

Economists have long known stadiums to be poor public investments. Most of the jobs created by stadium-building projects are either temporary, low-paying, or out-of-state contracting jobs—none of which contribute greatly to the local economy. (Athletes can easily circumvent most taxes in the state in which they play.) Most fans do not spend additional money as a result of a new stadium; they re-direct money they would have spent elsewhere on movies, dining, bowling, tarot-card reading, or other businesses. And for every out-of-state fan who comes into the city on game day and buys a bucket of Bud Light Platinum, another non-fan decides not to visit and purchases his latte at the coffee shop next door. All in all, building a stadium is a poor use of a few hundred million dollars.

This isn’t news, by any stretch, but it turns out we’re spending even more money on stadiums than we originally thought. In her new book Public/Private Partnerships for Major League Sports Facilities, Judith Grant Long, associate professor of Urban Planning at the Harvard University Graduate School of Design, shatters previous conceptions of just how much money the public has poured into these deals. By the late ’90s, the first wave of damning economic studies conducted by Robert Baade and Richard Dye, James Quirk and Rodney Fort, and Roger Noll and Andrew Zimbalist came to light, but well afterwards, from 2001 to 2010, 50 new sports facilities were opened, receiving $130 million more, on average, than those opened in the preceding decade. (All figures from Long’s book adjusted for 2010 dollars.) In the 1990s, the average public cost for a new facility was estimated at $142 million, but by the end of the 2000s, that figure jumped to $241 million: an increase of 70 percent.

Economists have also been, according to Long, drastically underestimating the true cost of these projects. They fail to consider public subsidies for land and infrastructure, the ongoing costs of operations, capital improvements (weneedanewscoreboard!), municipal services (all those traffic cops), and foregone property taxes (almost every major-league franchise located in the U.S. does not pay property taxes “due to a legal loophole with questionable rationale” as the normally value-neutral Long put it). Due to these oversights, Long calculates that economists have been underestimating public subsidies for sports facilities by 25 percent, raising the figure to $259 million per facility in operation during the 2010 season.

Sports fans and everyday citizens still cite anecdotal evidence as an argument for public financing. “That neighborhood was a dump; now it’s beautiful.” “No one used to go downtown at night; now it’s hopping!” Although the immediate area around the venue might look nicer, the areas further out look slightly worse. This is hard to visualize, so let me create a simplified example.

anytown-stadium-before-afterHere are maps showing the 13 neighborhoods of Anytown, U.S.A. The darker the green, the more economic activity that neighborhood has. Neighborhoods 3, 6, and 10, have the most economic activity, while 7, 8 and 13 have the least.

Neighborhood 13 is the worst of the worst. Abandoned factories, vacant warehouses, and graffiti-covered multi-unit housing. The area was first mapped out decades ago, so the streets, lampposts, sewer lines, and everything else need a major upgrade.

Wanting to revitalize the district, Anytown’s City Council named Neighborhood 13 as the site for a sparkling new, $500 million taxpayer-funded stadium. Urban planners can tear down the ugliest empty buildings and seize the rest using eminent domain. Once the stadium is built, private business will surround it with hip new restaurants, bars, and hotels, while the city improves the infrastructure all around. More economic activity in Neighborhood 13 means more tax revenue for the city. So naturally, the stadium will pay for itself over the long haul, right?

Not so much. Three years after the Anytown Stadium is built, Neighborhood 13 is doing pretty well. The city cut tax rates to lure investors, so hotels and restaurants popped up around it. Sure, some decrepit areas remain, but Neighborhood 13 hasn’t been this vital in years.

But look at the neighborhoods around it. Sure, they’re okay, but each one has a little less economic activity. Neighborhood 13 is more green, but several surrounding areas are a little bit less green. The guy who wanted to expand his restaurant chain built in 13 instead of 6. The woman who wanted to create a sports bar told her realtor to buy in 13 instead of 12. Neighborhood 13 is no longer the poorest in town, but now Neighborhood 7 is in even worse shape.

Anytown residents used to spend money at their local malls and movie theaters. Now the richies in Neighborhood 3 blow $250 at a game instead of buying that French coffee grinder at their local Williams-Sonoma. One neighborhood’s loss is Neighborhood 13′s gain. Notice how little new economic activity is being created; it’s merely shifting dollars from one part of Anytown to another. Worse still, Anytown created the Stadium District Enterprise Zone, lowering the taxes in 13. So the town is collecting less total revenue than they were before the stadium was built. And though the stadium area looks packed on game nights, it’s still pretty empty on the 325 days a year there isn’t an event.

Granted, Anytown is an intentionally simplified example. Urban areas are fluid, unique entities with their own layouts, suburbs, economic patterns, etc. And we shouldn’t forget that it’s nice to get the once-per-decade boost of an all-star game or championship game. But these brief booms slightly mitigate the initial outlay; they don’t come close to paying for it.

Many government revitalization schemes have the same negligible-to-negative impact. Phoenix had a economically depressed street, so they “improved” it with an insanely expensive light rail system. Now that street is much nicer but the streets north and south of it are in even worse shape. If the original street had 100 vacant storefronts, the streets around it now have 150.

Basically, city planners are pushing the air from one side of the half-filled balloon to the other. And each time they do, a little more air seeps out the end. It’s usually a net-negative impact. New wealth isn’t being created; old wealth is shifting around.

If Scott Walker or any other politician wants to argue for a taxpayer stadium, he can point to civic pride, prestige, or other non-tangible benefits. But if he reads the stack of studies from every side of the political spectrum, he cannot in good conscience argue that it will create an economic benefit.


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KEYWORDS: corporatewelfare; cronyfascism; cronyism; extortion; walker
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To: sgtyork

299 million dollars over 20 years versus 250 million up front equals a loss. That’s even assuming that the team leaves without the funding which is less than likely. It’s funny how crony capitalism always involves taking money from the working class and giving it to the wealthy. Let’s end welfare starting at the top.


21 posted on 08/15/2015 9:34:09 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Lex rex)
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To: sgtyork
This decision gained support of the public based on the specific factors involved, including me.

So, Walker's your man for President...?
22 posted on 08/15/2015 9:34:54 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: freedomfiter2

You are leaving out other costs that tipped the scales on this decision.

And the 299 million is under today’s television contracts. This would obviously continue to increase as player’s salaries increase.

I agree about crony capitalism, but there was already a facility owned by the state of Wisconsin that would generate perpetual upkeep costs until demolition.


23 posted on 08/15/2015 9:38:31 AM PDT by sgtyork (Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy)
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To: Reeses
The state is only chipping in 1/3rd, with the city and their county taxpayers paying the rest.

Yet Milwaukee taxpayers also pay Milwaukee County taxes as well as Wisconsin state taxes. Milwaukee County taxpayers also pay Wisconsin state taxes.

Which shell is the tax benefit to residents under...really? I'm guessing neither shell.
24 posted on 08/15/2015 9:39:06 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero

Sure, do you want to post some specific information about the topic as I have or do you just want to post semi-accusations like some kind of liberal?


25 posted on 08/15/2015 9:39:27 AM PDT by sgtyork (Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy)
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To: sgtyork
Sure, do you want to post some specific information about the topic as I have or do you just want to post semi-accusations like some kind of liberal?

Why would I do that? You answered my post #22 question and said sure Walker is your man for President in your post #25. Thanks.

To you, this discussion you may wish to avoid is in need of some specific information posted by some kind of liberal utilizing semi-accusations? No thanks then.
26 posted on 08/15/2015 9:47:04 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: conservativejoy

“The team’s ownership group — which includes one of Walker’s top campaign fundraisers “

All you need to know. And all you need to know about how Mitt Walker would be as President.


27 posted on 08/15/2015 9:58:12 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: conservativejoy

Whilst I appreciate your concern as a Tennessean for the tax paying residents of Milwaukee County, I am puzzled by your absence of concern regarding the taxpayer funded downtown light rail system nobody but the Mayor wants, which is being shoved down our throats without any form of public review or input.

Methinks you are pursuing a different agenda . . .


28 posted on 08/15/2015 10:01:26 AM PDT by BraveMan
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To: Georgia Girl 2

All I need to know is that I live very far away from you. For that I am grateful.


29 posted on 08/15/2015 10:03:54 AM PDT by BraveMan
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To: BraveMan

When your Mayor runs for President, I’ll look into that.


30 posted on 08/15/2015 10:03:58 AM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: conservativejoy

This is the same deal that every city makes. It stinks everywhere, and not just in the US.

All stadiums have been replaced. Every place the Beatles played is gone (those were the Big rooms once upon a time).

And when they old stadium/arena is decommissioned for sports, Livenation and others see to it that the old buildings cannot be used for concerts (non-compete clause with the corporation that p’wns the concert contracts on virtually all of the NEW major stadiums).

Those are typically city done deals, though. Not state (governor) decisions.

But keep up your anti-Walker rants. Hillary can use the votes. Or don’t you care about her corruption?


31 posted on 08/15/2015 10:04:58 AM PDT by a fool in paradise ("Psychopathia Sexualis, I'm in love with a horse that comes from Dallas" - Lenny Bruce (1958))
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To: sgtyork

These stadiums are always a corrupt deal.

In Houston, the new football stadium cost $300,000,000 to build a competing structure with the Astrodome (in the parking lot of the Astrodome).

Reliant (now NRG) paid $300,000,000 for the naming rights. Did that money go to the taxpayers who built it? NO. They went to the team owner.

The money is there to privately fund these projects. Rats run the major urban areas and these are interstate negotiated deals (architects, labor, and the crony run sports leagues).


32 posted on 08/15/2015 10:07:58 AM PDT by a fool in paradise ("Psychopathia Sexualis, I'm in love with a horse that comes from Dallas" - Lenny Bruce (1958))
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To: conservativejoy

I wouldn’t be surprised to see Mayor Annise Parker (D-Lesbian) run for the White House some day and if not that, some other higher office.


33 posted on 08/15/2015 10:09:29 AM PDT by a fool in paradise ("Psychopathia Sexualis, I'm in love with a horse that comes from Dallas" - Lenny Bruce (1958))
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To: sgtyork

Do the players have to live in the State where they play?
My understanding is that many of these super-rich players do not live in the city or State in which their team is headquartered. They gravitate instead to ultra wealthy enclaves in California and New York and Florida and just buy a nice condo to stay for games (of which there are only a few home games per year).

Sometimes the pre-season training is not even in the same State where the team is headquartered. These players are constantly flying all over for training, games, etc. Plus they have a lot of time off so why would they feel they need to actually reside in the State where their current team is located (they don’t all stay with the same team their whole career, so why, for example, move your whole family to Wisconsin if you have the $$$ to live in a tony enclave elsewhere?) You might not even by with the team more than a year or two anyway.

So who gets their income tax?


34 posted on 08/15/2015 10:12:02 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: conservativejoy

I generally support Walker as my #2 choice (behind Cruz, of course), but I disapprove of all crony capitalism. No city or state should ever pay for sports arenas. The roads and sewers for the arena are a trickier question, but the arena itself should be privately funded or not built.


35 posted on 08/15/2015 10:12:42 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: a fool in paradise

Seems no matter what it is, its OK as long as its “our” guy doing it.


36 posted on 08/15/2015 10:12:43 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: a fool in paradise

Posting an article is an anti Walker rant? I post articles on the candidates every day. The only whiners I get are Walker supporters.


37 posted on 08/15/2015 10:15:22 AM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: BraveMan

Me too we don’t need any more Yankees moving down South and then voting to turn our state into the chithole they left behind. :-)


38 posted on 08/15/2015 10:16:01 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Wolfie

I am against every stadium deal and voted down the one that passed in Houston by a small margin (Enron Crook Ken Lay helped deliver the Democrats that win).


39 posted on 08/15/2015 10:17:42 AM PDT by a fool in paradise ("Psychopathia Sexualis, I'm in love with a horse that comes from Dallas" - Lenny Bruce (1958))
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To: conservativejoy

Nice concern troll


40 posted on 08/15/2015 10:18:29 AM PDT by a fool in paradise ("Psychopathia Sexualis, I'm in love with a horse that comes from Dallas" - Lenny Bruce (1958))
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