To: conservativejoy
I know absolutely nothing about parliamentary rules, but I think I remember Reid once voting against something he actually was for and the explanation was that his position as leader gave him the right to bring the bill up again if he had voted against it on the first go.
Is that correct?
If so, could it be that McConnell night bring it up again when the circumstances are more favorable?
Don't get me wrong. I am no McConnell fan. I think he is a snake in the grass.
But remember snakes are totally impartial to who they bite.
To: old curmudgeon
Is that correct?It is 100% correct. Now, whether he'll actually bring it back up again, well, that remains to be seen. At the moment, however, the outrage seems misplaced. Don't get me wrong, McTurtle is a GOPE shill and is NO BETTER than a dummycrat, but the outrage is kinda funny to watch on this one. If he don't bring it back up, then yes, the outrage should increase tenfold. But at the moment, it SEEMS much ado about nothing.
11 posted on
08/04/2015 7:18:31 AM PDT by
dware
(Yeah, so? What are we going to do about it?)
To: old curmudgeon
I understand that that is his defense on twitter.
13 posted on
08/04/2015 7:32:30 AM PDT by
conservativejoy
(We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
To: old curmudgeon; dware
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his position as leader gave him the right to bring the bill up again if he had voted against it on the first go. --
That's "half correct."
It doesn't matter if the person moving for reconsideration is leader or not, although it is customary for the leader to move for reconsideration.
The person moving for reconsideration must be on the "winning" side of the vote. In this case, cloture failed, so the winning side is the "no" vote.
Now, here is some parliamentary procedure that about 80% of the people posting on this board "don't get." ...
- When a cloture vote fails, the subject is not killed. The subject is STILL under unlimited debate. When a cloture motion passes, the subject is still alive, and debate is limited. People think failed cloture kills the bill, because the leaders drop the subject. But procedurally, the subject is still alive.
- When a cloture vote fails, the proponent can file another cloture motion. There is no limit to the number of cloture motions that can be applied to a single matter. McConnell could have voted on the losing side of this cloture vote, and get another cloture vote just by filing another cloture motion.
McConnell did not "have to" move to reconsider. he could have filed another cloture motion, and had another cloture vote.
16 posted on
08/04/2015 7:48:39 AM PDT by
Cboldt
To: old curmudgeon
This dirty bastard saved Obamacare and killed any effort to stop illegal invasions by alien foreigners. This is just one more action by slimy piece of duplicitous protoplasm who pandres to anyone with a big enough campaign contribution. He has money comming out of his rectum and I don’t think he got it honestly. Check this lowlife out on OpenSecrets.com.
He is unfit to soil the bottom of a toilette bowl.
29 posted on
08/04/2015 11:50:02 AM PDT by
ZULU
(Democrats are paleosocialists)
To: old curmudgeon
I think McConnell voted against it because Obammy has dirt on him and promised to release it. This guy does whatever Obammy tells him to do. He needs to be recalled.
36 posted on
08/04/2015 12:23:39 PM PDT by
kjam22
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