Posted on 08/02/2015 6:05:19 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
It's been a few days since Microsoft Windows 10 launched and so far I'm loving it — and that's coming from someone who's been using a Macbook for the last 10 years.
There's just one thing missing. Well, two, technically.
I really miss my Apple and Google apps.
There are lots of perks to buying into the Apple ecosystem. With a Mac and an iPhone, you get all kinds of computing superpowers.
There's Handoff, an Apple feature which lets you shunt websites and draft emails from the phone to the desktop. There's Apple's Airdrop, which lets you send files (mostly photos) wirelessly between iPhone and the Mac. There's Continuum, which lets you receive phone calls on the computer or iPad.
But for my money, the best and most useful thing on the Mac is the Messages app, which lets you read and reply to text messages straight from the desktop. Originally, it would only work for Apple's own iMessage standard, but it was broadened earlier this year to include all text messages.
It's absurdly useful, especially while I'm trying to multitask at work.
On Windows, you lose all of that. There's likely no technical reason why Apple's couldn't make these features available on Windows, but Apple prefers to keep its best toys on its own side of the fence.
That makes a lot of business sense: Mac sales have defied the overall shrinkage of the PC market.
That's at least partially because Macs make an amazing complement to the always-popular iPhone — a smartphone that sells 47.5 million units during a bad quarter, and the cash cow that allows Apple to sit on a massive mountain of cash.
But Apple's no-Windows policy could also backfire if Windows 10 becomes a smash hit.
(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...
BTW your local cult cell grand poopa Swordmaker opened the door for my not being polite to Apple cult members.
Yes, tacticalogic doesn't know what he's talking about. In my shops, we were using IRMA boards in both Macs and PCs in the 1980s thru early 1990s, and there was no problem trading files around the network. They both "spoke" to our IBM mainframes besides to each other. I still have a Mac IIcx with an IRMA board, retired from its work in the mid 1990s. Before the Macs came along, I was using my Apple II at work linked to IBM PCs with off the shelf software in the early 1980s. No problem trading files.
Ive been working information systems since 1980...bench tech, field engineer large systems, tech support manager.. then in to data transport.. global data backbones with telco, now network design and moving in to white hat hacking pen test....
the last game I play on a computer was on my old Atari 800 or the Star Trek text game on my old PDP8 at work in the 80’s..im.not sure
I been hearing the same old Apple marking since before the little beige Toaster was a gleam in Jobs eye
Apple products are fine ( but over priced) .....
But the Apple marketing / user base relationship is a real live version of "Brawndo" meets ISIS.... Apple jihadist are boring
You didn't get that IRMA board from Apple, did you?
Just trying to make it simple enough for you cult members to understand.
As far as 16 yo working in factories that supply Apple - I never said that on this thread so - you are still a liar. Your own local cult leader admitted that over 400 were found by audits - so once again you are a liar. Typical cult pablum.
All I need to know. IT people hate Macs because they aren't required except in the most severe of cases, or screwed up government projects.
I have no need of your services or your advice, and I sure don't need the superior condescending attitude.
Apple products are fine ( but over priced) .....
If Apple Products were over priced they wouldn't sell. If you mean you can buy a cracker box pc for $200.00 bucks I agree, but they are not the same thing anymore than all cars are the same, even though they are designed for the same purpose.
Apple Jihadist how quaint.
What does that have to do with it? IBM didn't get that IRMA board from IBM either. It was necessary for IBM to have their PCs talking to their mainframes. IRMA was supplied by DCA, Inc., not made by IBM, and their boards were made for both PCs and Macs. I used to integrate different machines to connect to mainframes and terminals, much of it not being IBM. That included Wang, IVPhase, DEC and Apple (several models including Newtons). Back then it wasn't all IBM.
That point is that Apple wasn't going to lift a finger to get their computers to talk to an IBM mainframe. It fell to 3rd party vendors to make that happen. IBM didn't need to get cards from IRMA - they built their own, and would sell you a PC that would do it right out of the box.
“BTW your local cult cell grand poopa Swordmaker opened the door for my not being polite to Apple cult members. “
In my experience, we can only control one person and that isn’t always easy!
Better to have our own standards for behavior, apart from others.
When in the 1980's were you doing this? The MAC Driver Museum doesn't have anything earlier than 1991, and that's the earliest reference I can find for MAC IRMA adapters.
True. And my point was that IBM needed their (IBM) PCs to talk to their (IBM) mainframes - it was all in the family. Apple makes their hardware talk to Apple hardware. 3rd party vendors stepped in to make different maker's products talk across networks. It was necessary for IBM to make IBM components talk to IBM components. My original assertion is that different products did indeed talk to each other. Back then IBM was king of the world (I made my money primarily working on IBM equipment) and everyone else was a minor player.
Here’s an article from 1988 about newer Mac Graphic IRMA boards to emulate 3192G color graphic terminals. IRMA boards were around for Macs earlier than that. Do a search for DCA Mac IRMA II.
I was working as a systems engineer for large police department. They had a mix of PCs and Macs. I wrote code enabling their equipment to communicate to state and federal criminal databases. Quite a few cops were fond of using Macs.
My point is that Apple chose to do that, and that decision has had consequences. IBM mainframe shops looking to adopt PCs back in the early 80's bought IBM PCs because they could get that integration right out of the box, supported by the same vendor end-to-end. Adopting MACs meant having to rely on a third party, and if it went sideways you potentially had three different vendors involved in solving it, one of which was openly hostile to your mainframe vendor.
IBM provided that solution in 1983, along with a single point of contact for support, and for many companies that made choosing that platform an intuitive decision. Once the decision was made to adopt the IBM/MS/Wintel solution the installed base soon represented an investment in money and internal support resources that set the stage for that becoming the development platform going forward.
Remember “DOS isn't done until Lotus won't run”.
Or “Choke off Nerscapes Air supply”.
Or the famous AARD code.
What about the 6 different versions of DOS 6.x.
I could on and on, but you get the idea.
I have seen MS go out of the way to NOT work with others.
I dumped them years ago, and have no plan to go back.
I dumped them years ago, and have no plan to go back.
Fair enough. You shouldn't find it surprising if IBM mainframe shops feel the same way about Apple, for exactly the same reason.
I know I don't.
Hey, I didn’t trash them, I said they have the world’s best brand marketing bar none!
Capability wise, Apple Lags, even when they are dead last in rolling out a feature, it is like they invented the very concept.
I love them.
No, they don't. They do like choice in the hardware they buy, and many of them find it convenient to use the same OS and software at home they're familiar with from work. The open hardware architecture model adopted by IBM/MS drove an explosion new companies manufacturing PCs, components and peripherals, giving them those choices. That in turn drove developers to create software for that platform. IBM's dominant position in the business world back in the early 80's meant that there would probably be a computer running an MS operating system on their desk at work.
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