Click Here for YouTube video of 25 different OSes running simultaneously on an Apple iMac!
Posted on 07/31/2015 10:36:47 PM PDT by Swordmaker
Think running two operating systems at the same time is clever? How about twenty-five?
Hypervisors or virtual machine monitors (VMM) are computer software, firmware or hardware that create and runs virtual machines.
While this demo has no practical purpose, it does help to illustrate how clean and efficient are VMware’s hypervisors.
Of course, VMWare makes one of the most widely-used software hypervisors for the Mac, Fusion Pro 7.
I would consider the Apple to be a crippled Linux workstation.
Would like to know the HDD configuration on the Mac he used. No way he launched 25 different VM's on the same physical disk and had that type of response time on the VM's he was launching.
Also, it appeared the foreground VM had very good response time, what about the VM's that were in the background? Were they responsive? Didn't see if they were or not.
The machine I'm on right now is an AMD FX-8350 with 8 Cores, overclocked to 4.8Ghz, 32GB of Memory and 5 Samsung EVO 850 Pro SSD's in a raid config. I've never pushed to see how many VM's I can run on this machine. I typically don't have much need beyond 4 VM's (Windows 8.1, Windows XP, Ubuntu and Mint.)
I configure my VM's to have 2 Cores each and 6-8Gb of memory each. Wonder how the guy in this video configured CPU and Memory for his VM's. Would really like to see that.
So they are. They're also running commodity Intel i3, i5, i7 processors with commodity memory and hard disks that can also be found in any typical home PC or Laptop these days.
So why does Apple charge so much more vs. a conventional PC or Laptop?
I'm buying my son a new laptop before he heads off to college in three weeks. I'm looking at i5 and i7 laptops for him and find plenty of those in the $600-$750 price range. Comparable Mac laptop is well over $1k.
Why would I spend the $1k on the Mac laptop when I can save $200-$300 on a Windows laptop?
Got a question for you - I’m due for an upgrade - and thinking if money were no object, getting a trashcan. I’ve built all my own boxes for 25 years - so buying a Mac Pro is a big decision.
Colleague at work bought the $4k one - he does video editing and iPhone development on the side - besides our day jobs of Java/.NET. He said I should go the Hackintosh route. I looked into it - for $800 I can get an Intel 5830 hex-core - solid mboard - and do the Bootcamp or Parallels thing - or even Fusion.
Your thoughts on Hackintosh?
“crippled Windows users get it through your heads that Macs are NOT toys???”
Well, maybe you ought to stop with the name calling because you sound like a childish teenager, which does nothing for the image of Apple. Why is it the juvenile comments come from Apple users?
VMWare has been running on Intel servers for a very long time and 25 client is not all that impressive. Nice to see Apple finally catching up.
At his blog he gives the stats: 32gig
http://blogs.vmware.com/euc/2015/07/horizon-flex-drives-amazing-hypervisors.html
I think the answer would be yes, it can!But is it possible to run OS 9 anymore in an OS X window? Or is that kaput?
I have a little bit of orphan data that I created on my first iMac, a G4 that couldn’t be upgraded to Leopard. Nothing that would make me pine for the fjords, tho . . .
All it takes is lots of ram.
These days with modern CPUs, it's not really even a horsepower issue.
I'd say that in general, the engineering behind them is better. You get what you pay for. I'm a Linux, not a Mac user, but I won't deny that Apple makes good hardware. If you compare spec for spec, (swordmaker has done this here on FR several times), the Mac really isn't any more expensive than other offerings. They just do not do the low end of the market. If you compare a high-end windows laptop with a Mac with the same processor, memory, video and such, they will cost about the same.
It’s a lot better than Parallels that’s for sure.
Let’s be honest about those pics... They run Macs because that’s what they were provided by IT. The guy with the Lenovo down in the corner is probably a contractor.
” Why would I spend the $1k on the Mac laptop when I can save $200-$300 on a Windows laptop? “
I’m not sure why you would do so. I can only speak from my own experience.
The $200-$300 “savings” is only true when:
1. You value your personal time at $0 while you perform virus checks, malware checks, and act as an unpaid Microsoft technician.
If you value your time as a minimum wage employee, you will blow your “savings” in the first year.
If you have a real job, you know what you are worth per hour and can do the math.
If you earn $50,000 per year, you make roughly $24/hour
If you earn $100,000 per year, you make roughly $48/hour
At those rates, you should have blown through your “savings” in short order.
Then there is the ongoing cost of any virus software or malware detection programs. Then there is the absolute frustration of things not installing correctly.
Again, in my experience, the extra time and mental bandwidth I got back by switching after being a Microsuck unpaid tech for 13 long years, made any extra “MS Savings” a trivial number.
My first two kids went to college and I got them Dell Windows computers. Both systems barely made it through college. Both kids have had many computers after the originals. One eventually got a mac and raves about it.
Last kid through college chose a mac. Computer is still being used daily 6 years later. Still runs flawlessly. Has never had a single virus, malware or hiccup with installations of software or system software.
My 2 cents. I think the savings are illusory.
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this running multiple OSs is legit unlike the bogus Apple Watch that my $12 Casio beats because it is 50 meters water resistant while the bogus AppWatch is 3 meters water resistant which is a joke
“I’ll also note in passing that Mac hardware is one of the best (fastest, stablest) platforms for running Windows native (on the metal). This is generally done using the Apple “BootCamp” dual-boot option. “
I would be interested if this is now the situation but all tests I have seen under bootcamp have performance hits.
You're certainly entitled to your opinion ("Microsuck") my point was made purely on the hardware and OS for two laptops, one running Windows, the other running OSX.
Both laptops having i7 processors, 1TB HDD's and 4GB of memory.
The Mac Laptop is anywhere from $250 - $350 higher.
You attribute cost of the Windows laptop as not including other things that are not in scope for my example. However, if you want to go that route, the learning curve for switching to a Mac/OSX laptop from any commodity i7 laptop w/Windows on it is pretty steep itself, and that just widens the gap of the cost of the Mac laptop being more than the Windows Laptop.
So again, why would anyone choose to spend $250 more on a Mac/OSX laptop vs. a comparable Windows Laptop with the same CPU, Memory and HDD configuration? Especially if that person is already a Windows user?
If you're going to answer the question directly without hurling insults fine. If not, please move along.
Sure, because they're Dell's and Dell is not known for long term longevity in ANYTHING they make. Some years ago, I purchased a Pentium computer from Dell. It worked fine, never gave me any trouble and always did what I needed.
So three years after that purchase, I bought another one. Worst mistake I ever made (computer-wise that is.) In the first thirty days, the Power Supply failed, then some onboard memory went bad.
Then the monitor sparked and smoked/caught fire sitting on my desktop as I was using it. Dell's "customer service" insisted I plug the monitor in to "run diagnostics." It took two weeks of arguing with Dell in Austin, Texas to ship me a new monitor replacement.
The whole experience was so awful, I went back to building my own computers again. For less money than buying a Dell or any other desktop for that matter, I get better components, I've checked compatibility of components with the OS I was going to run, and I know the end product will be put together properly.
I would never purchase another pre-built Desktop. I just wish I could do the same for laptops.
None. They are running Mac OS X. On the original thread, they had blown up screen shots showing clear OS X screens. Sorry. Nice try.
No, they are their personal computers. I know some of the people who work there. Nice try. NASA engineers use a lot of Macs. Sorry. Others have tried that tack before as well. You'll find a lot of Macs at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory too. So why don't you try being honest? Look at the mix of models and vintages among those engineers. They run the gamut on sizes and ages of MacBooks, Macbook Pros and even some Macbook Airs. There's even a fewer older black MacBooks. You don't really know what you are talking about.
How about you guys stop with the insults? I am sick and tired of the same tired old junks coming from YOU and the others. You are one of the perennial offenders, Code Toad. The implied insults incorporated in that original post got what it deserved. The insult was to WINDOWS not the users. Read it correctly, Code Toad. I did not say "crippled users of Windows." The posted implied that Macs are only good for idle uses. I corrected his insulting misapprehension, which he and others, including you, have raised before.
The ones who act childish and juvenile on Apple threads are the anti-Apple trolls. . . and you are one of the most frequent offenders.
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