[Swordmaker]

As far as returning my 6 devices to Apple, I will investigate this. But what a PAIN IN THE REAR. If it were designed correctly in the first place, I wouldn't have to do this. But that is the idea, right? — planned obsolescence? My ipod dies, spend another $300 and buy a new one. The fool is the person who does this. But not me.

Who said anything about returning your devices to Apple. . . or that you cannot replace their batteries or that it was expensive. It's not. Only you seem to think it is. I know people who will do it for under $25. That's not expensive. . . and they are easily found on the Internet. . . as are instructions for replacing iPod and iPad batteries as a do-it-yourself project.

You chose to "junk" your iPad when you could have sold it to finance an upgrade. They were eminently salable. . . and still operated with their original iOS version. YOU decided they were obsolete when they still worked.

Frankly, Dhs, it has been my experience that people who claim to use products from Apple know how to spell the names of the products, especially when they claim to have used them for years. You still don't know how to spell iPad and iPod. That makes me doubt your story from the get go. That's red flag indicating Anti-Apple troll. . . Apple users don't spell the names of the products wrong, they just don't. And they don't criticize them with the typical talking points of the Android community. You do.

Where are all the Android devices that are so easily upgraded from their original Android versions? Oh, they don't exist. Their manufacturers don't supply the upgrade path. That's even the case for the vast majority of the Android tablets.

[dhs12345]

Yes, it WAS expensive. Apparently it is enough of a problem to where there is a viable business for replacing the batteries.

Someone suggested it or some kind of recycling process.

Ijunk for all I care. When I try to load an app and the software tells me that the app is not supported under my os, the last thing I am thinking is how nice it will be to be able to return it to recycle or to upgrade it. Why? Because it costs me more $. But that is the game right?

BTW, the money I have sunk into Apple products gives me the right to complain. If you would like, I can list model #s and serial numbers starting with the unit that I had engraved for my wife. Kind of silly, but my wife still has it. It is as dead as a doornail, but she kept it for sentimental reasons.

As for android, I pulled an old HTC android out of a box the other day. I was going to give it to a friend. It fired right up and I updated the apps no problem.