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Forgetting Lolita
First Things ^ | 7/15/2015 | Peter J. Leithart

Posted on 07/17/2015 1:56:54 PM PDT by Borges

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1 posted on 07/17/2015 1:56:54 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges
Correct.

In the novel, she is is a normal kid who does not act or dress provocatively.

It is the mentally ill narrator who misinterprets her every word and gesture to justify his predation.

2 posted on 07/17/2015 2:05:55 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

I’ve been thinking this for a while and came across this article which exactly that. Projecting the current ‘over sexualized nymphet’ culture on the novel is borderline obscene not to mention false.


3 posted on 07/17/2015 2:08:16 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

I don’t disagree with this opinion piece however, Nabokov wrote the screenplay for the movie and got an Oscar nomination for it.


4 posted on 07/17/2015 2:08:24 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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His credit was spurious. Virtually nothing of what he wrote was used in the film. He published his own screenplay later on. I actually like Kubrick’s film. The girl in the film is clearly about 16 or 17. Over the age of consent in many states back then.


5 posted on 07/17/2015 2:10:21 PM PDT by Borges
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To: CaptainK
Nabokov wrote the screenplay for the movie and got an Oscar nomination for it.

And Sting got a word that rhymes with "cough".

6 posted on 07/17/2015 2:10:50 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Borges

I think Spears and Perry are pushing 30.


7 posted on 07/17/2015 2:11:51 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Wolfie

But their initial claim to fame was the Nymphet image.


8 posted on 07/17/2015 2:13:38 PM PDT by Borges
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But he spent a lot of time with Kubrick and I don’t believe there were any major disagreements during the making of the film.


9 posted on 07/17/2015 2:15:27 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: Borges

None of these cheap hookers are Sue Lyons - who practically steals the movie.


10 posted on 07/17/2015 2:15:45 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: "I should like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: dfwgator

It’s my favorite Sting rhyme/line and most likely a product of his English teacher background.


11 posted on 07/17/2015 2:16:51 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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In the letter correspondence he states that he would not allow any film that used an actual 12 year old.


12 posted on 07/17/2015 2:17:54 PM PDT by Borges
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To: CaptainK

I confress that’s how I ended up finding out that Nabokov wrote Lolita.


13 posted on 07/17/2015 2:18:08 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

The song was written just a few years after Nabokov died. I wonder what he would have thought.


14 posted on 07/17/2015 2:20:11 PM PDT by Borges
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To: CaptainK

I could just imagine Stewart Copeland rolling his eyes when he heard that one.


15 posted on 07/17/2015 2:23:58 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Borges; dfwgator

I suspect Nabokov would have loved the mention. And how could you roll your eyes at lyrical perfection?


16 posted on 07/17/2015 2:29:23 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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Well he pronounced the name wrong to begin with. It’s Na-BO-Kov.


17 posted on 07/17/2015 2:29:56 PM PDT by Borges
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To: wideawake

And worse, he MARRIES the mother to get access to the child! (at least, that is my memory from reading it 25 years ago.)


18 posted on 07/17/2015 2:30:45 PM PDT by Explorer89 (And now, let the wild rumpus start!!)
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To: Borges

He did suggest that they try and make Lyons a little bit more grubby, but I don’t think Kubrick tried hard enough.


19 posted on 07/17/2015 2:31:06 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: Borges

The book was not just a simple tale of a sexual abuser of a child. I read it also as an allegory of the relationship of Europe and the US, intellectuals vs. mass culture, the postmodern vs. the high modern. Nabokov described the fault lines in postwar American culture.


20 posted on 07/17/2015 2:31:08 PM PDT by oblomov
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