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Trump Proud To Be Fighting For A Secure Border (Trump, Cruz vs virtually everyone else)
Live Trading News ^ | Posted on: July 5, 2015 | Posted by: Paul Ebeling

Posted on 07/05/2015 7:52:36 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network

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To: CodeToad
CodeToad, you are twisting my words again.

God loves you always. You will be the one who has to feel it, though.

61 posted on 07/05/2015 9:43:08 AM PDT by Isara
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

All others are selling out to Tyson Foods and others who use low paid Mexican illegal labor. Democrats want illegal votes (and Latino voters who mistakenly vote racist “La Raza”) Republican low wage (slave wage) illegals for big business “donations”. Trump doesn’t need these business contibutions. Ne needs no “friends” in Mexico City and Peking. But in Obama’s America the truth offends people if its not the apporoved truth. Go Trump! Go Cruz—the last true Americans. They may not will but they speak their minds just as Reagan did.


62 posted on 07/05/2015 9:43:27 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: CodeToad

Dear CodeToad, stop what you are doing and pray with your whole heart. Feel God’s Love for you. God is Love.


64 posted on 07/05/2015 9:58:02 AM PDT by Isara
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To: Norm Lenhart

“Congress is controlled by the USCOC and all but Cruz and maybe 3 others want a fence.”

I assume that you were residing on ANOTHER PLANET when this passed.

...or, more likely, it ruins your case for OPEN BORDERS.

How about going back to DU, or wherever, rather than trolling this site?


65 posted on 07/05/2015 10:23:57 AM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'about' page))
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To: BobL

I typoed and corrected it a couple posts later.

Lack of an edit function sucks.


66 posted on 07/05/2015 10:28:05 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

Nothing personal, but I have trouble following both your original and corrected posting. But, as it is, my point is that if Trump (or Cruz, for that matter) make border security a MAJOR ISSUE and support the fence, and if the Republicans can hang on to the Senate, we will get the fence built, as very few Republicans will risk pulling the rug out on such a critical issue.

What Trump has done is bring border security to the forefront - until now, Rubio has simply lied about what he attempted to do to the country, and FINALLY he got called out on it. It was Trump, but it really doesn’t matter - if Rubio sinks now, then Trump has done us a HUGE FAVOR. Even Rush was starting to get reeled in by Rubio’s charm. He needs to be defeated.

As to whether Trump or Cruz - Cruz has always been my top choice, but if Trump is forcing Republicans to show their true colors, then that can only be good, very good. I’ll pick between them later...no hurry now.


67 posted on 07/05/2015 10:47:48 AM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'about' page))
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To: joshua c

“I’m confused. Is Bush an illegal? How can he be personally offended by Trump’s remarks?”

Because, Trump directed a particular comment to Bush, saying Bush was not strong on closing the border, too easy about illegals coming here. Because he said that about Bush, Bush hit back and included he was “personally offended” by Trump’s remark so it would hit harder with Hispanics that he is on their side. He also thinks being married to a Hispanic will cause other Hispanics to vote for him.

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68 posted on 07/05/2015 10:48:11 AM PDT by Marcella (TED CRUZ Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: BobL

The problem with trump is the same with Romney. Lots of great sounding words. When you look at their records, their actions in the real world do not support what they say on the campaign trail and like blind sheep, conservatives run to these frauds because they believe anything that sounds good.

Trump already backed off with his ‘work hard and you can stay’ crap. He will continue moving left when he surmises he can and heep his followers on board. By the time they figure out they got conned, they will do just what they did with Romney. Dig their heels in to avoid admitting they were wrong and then lose.


69 posted on 07/05/2015 10:52:54 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

“Trump already backed off with his ‘work hard and you can stay’ crap. ...He will continue moving left when he surmises he can and heep his followers on board.”

We’ll see, but even with the ‘work hard and you can stay’ line, he’s still appears to be furthest to the right on Illegal immigration.

To put it another way, I haven’t heard anyone, Cruz included, state that the 12+ million Illegals should be deported...and by not stating that, they are essentially saying they can stay, if they behave (as Trump, too, sadly said).

At least that’s how I see it.


70 posted on 07/05/2015 11:04:53 AM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'about' page))
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To: BobL

I just don’t trust him. If he turns on this, a completely unforced error, he’ll turn on more. I hope he doesn’t. But I believe he will.


71 posted on 07/05/2015 11:16:30 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart
“On what planet is ‘Illegals bad but Illegals OK if they work hard?”

The reality is the millions of illegals here can't/won't be sent back - there is no way to do that. As criminals are identified, certainly they should be sent back (that won't happen until Obama is out).

It appears some Freepers think we can just lay our hands on all illegals and shove them aback across the border. The illegals live in the shadows if they have no job and we will never be able to get rid of those except for the ones who turn criminal.

I think what will happen, if a conservative is elected president, the border will be closed to stop the wave coming in and a person with a job here will have to be scrutinized to determine if the worker is a citizen (this will be done through government records, not through any paper/document given by the worker as that could be forged).

If the worker isn't a citizen, worker will be given a card (could be a different color than a green card), that identifies the worker and puts the worker in the govn. system, but never be a citizen unless the worker applies for citizenship and goes through the legal system to do that.

None of this will be easily done, but there has to be a starting place to finally account for these people, and stop others from coming in.

One may say if the worker gets identified of not being a citizen, the worker should be jailed and then sent back to wherever the worker came from. I doubt this will happen, but maybe it could work. The ones left would be the ones who stay home and don't work so they aren't found out by getting a job.

72 posted on 07/05/2015 11:23:39 AM PDT by Marcella (TED CRUZ Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: Marcella

The reality is that we can and do have the ability to identify and send them back. We just lack the will.

We can do anything we set out minds to. Or we can keep telling ourselves we can’t. Period.


73 posted on 07/05/2015 11:27:40 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

...and virtually everyone else looks like a sock puppet.


74 posted on 07/05/2015 11:34:31 AM PDT by AdaGray
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Trump gave Cruz credit when he called into Fox News yesterday morning. I am hopeful that Trump and Cruz are forging an unspoken alliance to deep six Jeb and Marco.

Christie was already committing suicide on Fox News Sunday today so he’s best just left alone.


75 posted on 07/05/2015 1:05:17 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Norm is anti-Trump, so he must be pro-illegal criminals pouring across our borders like Obama, Hillary, Soros, the MSM, Jeb and Rubio.


76 posted on 07/05/2015 1:16:46 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network; Kale; Jarhead9297; COUNTrecount; notaliberal; DoughtyOne; ...
    Ted Cruz Ping!

    If you want on/off this ping list, please let me know.
    Please beware, this is a high-volume ping list!

    CRUZ or LOSE!

77 posted on 07/05/2015 1:21:37 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Norm Lenhart
Pretty much anyone at random.

Any New World Order anti-American globalist as long as it is not pro-America Trump...Interesting...

78 posted on 07/05/2015 2:38:42 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Iscool

Well you have a 100% chance of a disaster one way and a 50/50 shot the other. So by the Liberal Freeper Dogma of lesser evil, you sorta gotta go with random chance no matter what.

Ii didn’t make the rules. Talk to those that did.


79 posted on 07/05/2015 2:42:22 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart
The problem with trump is the same with Romney. Lots of great sounding words. When you look at their records, their actions in the real world do not support what they say on the campaign trail and like blind sheep, conservatives run to these frauds because they believe anything that sounds good.

It doesn't matter...Trump and Cruz are waking up the people who have given up on America...Trump may not be the man but his message is...

80 posted on 07/05/2015 2:57:06 PM PDT by Iscool
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