Posted on 06/16/2015 4:40:51 AM PDT by don-o
Kenneth Carlisle is among the 30 San Antonio area men arrested in connection with the Waco biker shootout.
Since that shootout, Lindsay Carlisle has been fighting to prove her husband wasn't involved.
"This is has been beyond difficult. The worst nightmare of my entire life."
Lindsay Carlisle is trying to hold it together for her family. She's paying all of the bills, while her husband Kenneth sits in the McClennan County Jail on a one million dollar bond.
"What happened to be innocent until proven guilty? In this case that's not what's happening."
It's been just more than a week since the biker brawl and shootout at Twin Peaks in Waco.
9-people died, 18-were injured, and 170-people were arrested; including Kenneth Carlisle.
Lindsay says he drove her car and had just arrived.
She says he never made it past the parking lot.
"He wasn't wearing any vests, no colors, no bike, was in a vehicle and was in the wrong place, wrong time."
(Excerpt) Read more at foxsanantonio.com ...
Nope, not laboring.....
It is not specified as to whether he planned to attend the
meeting or was there by coincidence.
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Thanks. I couldn’t get to the article wondered if it further
addressed the reason he happened to be there.
You forgot to mention that you have made up your mind to obfuscate and avoid due diligence. You are self deceiving.
You tell me, please. What difference does it make as to why he was there? You DO know that this was a meeting for both club riders and independents?
And it is a public accommodation. Why the concern with his reason for being there?
“You can keep ignoring this stuff by pretending that it’s not “reliable.” But you are only fooling yourself.”
Okay, so let’s have your theory or opinion on what actually happened. Go ahead and lay it out for me.
I was wondering the same thing, deport. :^)
Curiosity...
I have never pretended to have an explanation, though I certainly have my own personal suspicions that I've shared here and there, and which in fact evolve and change with some regularity. But as for my theory on what actually happened -- I feel a bit like Werner von Braun -- "That's not my department."
I don't know what went down in Waco, but I sure as hell know what DIDN'T go down. When the MSM and the cops are telling me that two-thirds of hardened biker criminals don't have criminal records, that they plan, prepare, and carry out a well-armed "rumble" in the presence of SIX marked cop cars during Sunday brunch hour in a crowded busy shopping/dining venue, that "criminals" populate a parking lot filled with so many STOCK Harleys that any halfway cognizant American citizen SEES DAILY being ridden by Sunday bikers, and that same parking lot has so few non-custom, home-built "outlaw" bikes of the type ridden by true hard-core bikers AS WELL AS Harley lovers/mechanics/aficionados who are INNOCENT OF ANY CRIMES but who just love to tinker on Harleys, although you apparently don't know this about such bikers because you're not related to them --
Well, I may not know what went down, but I sure know what didn't go down. You would know it, too, if you were honest with yourself after taking responsibility for informing yourself.
“The Bandidos had a “middle of the pack” rating as to threat.”
I take that as an effort by you to suggest the Bandidos aren’t that much trouble - merely “middle of the pack.”
Yet their ranking places them in Tier 2, with Crips, Bloods, MS13, etc.
Most folks in most towns would want their police to keep such criminals out of town if possible, or watch them very closely if they came into town.
Many organized crime syndicates, whether Mafia, black, Hispanic or motorcycle types, use willing newcomers without records, to “front” as part of their entry requirements.
You take it wrong and fail in your attempt read my mind and heart. I defy you to find anything to back up your delusion from what I have actually posted.
I WOULD wonder, if they were all THAT bad ass, why the Waco PD was sitting in their vehicles when the trouble jumped off.
-- well, all I've got to say is that it doesn't speak well of Texas law enforcement that two thirds of such idiotic wreckless criminals operating in Texas while wearing patches on their backs publicly proclaiming their criminality loud and proud could get away with it so often that when they're finally corralled and arrested at Twin Peaks, only about a third had ever been caught before (that is to say, had a criminal record) ...
I maintain, "truth seeker," that your screen name is a falsehood.
“I maintain, “truth seeker,” that your screen name is a falsehood.”
Well you have to grant this: I got you to post something besides 1/3, 1/3, 1/3 over and over and over.
I would be interested to see your explanation for why it is that out of 177 supposedly "criminal" bikers, the vast majority lacked any criminal histories?
Was it because that, in spite of wearing the equivalent of neon signs "colors" on their backs announcing to cops and civilians alike that they are active criminals, two thirds of them are able to constantly outsmart the cops?
Is it because Texas cops are really lame and inept?
Or is it because they're actually innocent and exactly what they look like -- guys that dress and act like Harley riders, that Americans who watch too much TV and blindly accept the theories of so-called "experts" in law enforcement, wrongly think tough-looking Harley riders are all criminals, when in fact, the criminals are a decided minority and virtually ALL have prior records to PROVE that they are criminals?
But let's get back to the real topic. WHY did such bad-ass dudes as the Bandidos (and yes, their ranks include some very bad guys) risk this war with such an insignificant club as the Cossacks (not even included in the ranks of gang threats, although a gang "expert" swears up and down that they're affiliated with the Hells Angels), let alone in plain view of SIX marked police cars that the Waco PD says were there before and during the melee?
Go on, "truth seeker" -- instead of deflection and diversion, how about actually addressing why you believe that authentic bad-ass dudes would open fire on nobodies right in front of half a dozen cop cars?
HMMMMMMMMMMM?????
Most likely some of those arrested with no records (yet), perform low level tasks for the gang, like delivering meth to people in our communities, but haven’t been caught yet.
Do you deny that members of 1% outlaw motorcycle clubs deal drugs?
I find it nonsensical to defend Tier 2 violent drug dealer groups like Crips, Bloods, MS13, or the Bandidos.
Goes against my law abiding citizen instincts. I want my police dept. to keep those types far away from my town, neighborhood, etc.
OFFS.
Your ludicrous snark not withstanding, he certainly is not looking at his copy of the Constitution or BOR.
Well, that’s a shining example of integrity, right there.
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I don’t personally know any bikers that would even dare to belch loudly in the midst of a heavy police presence, let alone ‘throw down’.
A funny thing...out of *all* of those ‘awful, subhuman criminals’, there was not even one single drug charge?
None?
Hmmmmmm...
Most likely some of those arrested with no records (yet), perform low level tasks for the gang, like delivering meth to people in our communities, but haven’t been caught yet.
“Do you deny that members of 1% outlaw motorcycle clubs deal drugs?
I find it nonsensical to defend Tier 2 violent drug dealer groups like Crips, Bloods, MS13, or the Bandidos.
Goes against my law abiding citizen instincts. I want my police dept. to keep those types far away from my town, neighborhood, etc.”
You can say that again!
WHY did such bad-ass dudes as the Bandidos (their ranks include some very bad guys) risk this war with such an insignificant club as the Cossacks (not even included in the ranks of clubs listed as gang threats) in plain view of SIX marked police cars that the Waco PD says were there before and during the melee?
Stop with the diversions and the changes of subject. ADDRESS THE QUESTION. But I bet you won't because you are a fraud and a coward.
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