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Can the manager of a local public pool ban citizens from taking photographs at the pool?
VanityQuestion | 06/11/15 | vanity question by Redreno

Posted on 06/12/2015 5:47:17 PM PDT by redreno

A local pool manager has decided that taking video or photographs at the public pool is banned. Is this allowed?


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To: redreno

There may be a local ordinance that allows him to do that. Some child safety regulation.

Generally speaking, you should be able to take photos at any public place, or of anyone or anything in view from a public way.

In general taking photos on beaches and at pools will get you beat up by angry husbands, boyfriends, and fathers. If you are just taking pics of your own kid, no one will usually bother you.

I once went on a public beach with a 600mm lens to photographs birds. At one point I actually had a cop ask what I was doing. In the end he was looking through the lens and shooting bird pictures. But he wanted to be sure I wasn’t being a perv.


21 posted on 06/12/2015 7:31:51 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: kaehurowing

Generally speaking, that is a good rule. But, in most states a photographer can shoot from public property with impunity. Now, taking a photo is way, way, different than using them commercially or displaying them in public.

Of course if you start snapping random pictures of a kid, you are going to end up with a black eye and a broken camera.


22 posted on 06/12/2015 7:35:04 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: redreno

If it is a public pool (taxpayer supported in whole or in part) then no.


23 posted on 06/12/2015 8:13:25 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: redreno

taking video or photographs at the public pool is banned. Is this allowed.... PEDO-BEAR SAZ NO!


24 posted on 06/12/2015 8:42:20 PM PDT by baddog 219
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To: redreno

[[Is this allowed? ]]

The manager can not- when you leave you home and walk into the public, you are no longer afforded privacy rights that you have in your own home- and infact, a California court has even just declared that people in their own homes are not allowed privacy rights when a photographer had a showing in which he displayed his ‘art’ which showed people IN THEIR OWN HOMES as this pervert took photos of them through open windows unbeknownst to them

If the pool manager is stopping photographers from photographing, then these photographers need to take him to court


25 posted on 06/12/2015 9:28:01 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: kaehurowing

[[In my state you theoretically cannot take a picture of anyone without their permission anyway.]]

What state would that be? I’ve never heard of such a law- when someone is in public, all privacy rights are forsaken except for invasive perverted crap like taking photos up skirts, down shirts etc- there are laws against that in most states- but I’ve never heard of a law stating you can not take someone’s photo without their permission? Street photographers have pretty much always won in court cases and have pretty much solidified the idea that whether we like it or not, when we are in public, we are fair game for photographers- the only restrictions I know of are that you can’t impede an investigation, be in a crime scene etc- an the only time you need ‘permission’ is when you intend to sell the photo to advertising agencies


26 posted on 06/12/2015 9:34:20 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: redreno; Gamecock; SaveFerris; FredZarguna
There are certain risks with having too many cameras at swimming places.


27 posted on 06/12/2015 9:57:23 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: redreno

Who controls the property. Is it a government entity or a private operation? Private, the manager can say, “no photos.”


28 posted on 06/12/2015 10:02:19 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: Larry Lucido
Nah. You can Photoshop anything.


29 posted on 06/12/2015 10:16:02 PM PDT by FredZarguna (It looks just like a Telefunken U-47 -- with leather.)
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To: redreno

Private pool or public?


30 posted on 06/12/2015 10:16:24 PM PDT by mountainbunny (Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens ~ JR.R. Tolkien)
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To: redreno

Sorry - just reread the headline.

No, probably not if it is truly public (not YMCA or privateky managed) property.


31 posted on 06/12/2015 10:17:20 PM PDT by mountainbunny (Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens ~ JR.R. Tolkien)
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To: PAR35

This, too. If you are taking pictures of your child/girlfriend/wife, go nuts.

If you take pictures of my child at the pool, I will be sure you stop.

Also, if you are doing a commercial shoot or preventing anyone from using the pool or in any way impeding swimming or whatever, then yes, they can stop you.


32 posted on 06/12/2015 10:23:24 PM PDT by mountainbunny (Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens ~ JR.R. Tolkien)
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To: ICCtheWay

The posted question doesn’t give much info on the actual rule. It could be that no one can take pictures of minors without their parents permission. I know several youth groups my kids belonged to had us sign authorizations to allow kids pix to be taken.

And, if memory serves, the requirement for permission was in response to some law, or due to the negative result of a lawsuit against some youth group that posted members’ pictures without permission. The ‘net opened a whole new world of laws and pervs.


33 posted on 06/12/2015 10:26:50 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Yo-Yo

“””Would you like a perv pedophile taking pictures of your 14 year old daughter in her two piece suit?”””

It’s ok for people to see her in the suit but not take pictures? If you’re willing to allow her be in public and seen by anyone at pool how is taking a picture worse?


34 posted on 06/12/2015 11:16:01 PM PDT by raybbr (Obamacare needs a deatha panel.)
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To: redreno
For what it's worth, which might not be much, I found the info below on this website.:

http://content.photojojo.com/tips/legal-rights-of-photographers/

The Ten Legal Commandments of Photography

I. Anyone in a public place can take pictures of anything they want. Public places include parks, sidewalks, malls, etc. Malls? Yeah. Even though it’s technically private property, being open to the public makes it public space.

II. If you are on public property, you can take pictures of private property. If a building, for example, is visible from the sidewalk, it’s fair game.

III. If you are on private property and are asked not to take pictures, you are obligated to honor that request. This includes posted signs.

IV. Sensitive government buildings (military bases, nuclear facilities) can prohibit photography if it is deemed a threat to national security.

V. People can be photographed if they are in public (without their consent) unless they have secluded themselves and can expect a reasonable degree of privacy. Kids swimming in a fountain? Okay. Somebody entering their PIN at the ATM? Not okay.

VI. The following can almost always be photographed from public places, despite popular opinion:

accident & fire scenes, criminal activities
bridges & other infrastructure, transportation facilities (i.e. airports)
industrial facilities, Superfund sites
public utilities, residential & commercial buildings
children, celebrities, law enforcement officers
UFOs, the Loch Ness Monster, Chuck Norris
VII. Although “security” is often given as the reason somebody doesn’t want you to take photos, it’s rarely valid. Taking a photo of a publicly visible subject does not constitute terrorism, nor does it infringe on a company’s trade secrets.

VIII. If you are challenged, you do not have to explain why you are taking pictures, nor to you have to disclose your identity (except in some cases when questioned by a law enforcement officer.)

IX. Private parties have very limited rights to detain you against your will, and can be subject to legal action if they harass you.

X. If someone tries to confiscate your camera and/or film, you don’t have to give it to them. If they take it by force or threaten you, they can be liable for things like theft and coercion. Even law enforcement officers need a court order.

35 posted on 06/12/2015 11:54:51 PM PDT by TChad
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To: Yo-Yo

Give her a burka.


36 posted on 06/13/2015 3:39:15 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ( Anything FREELY-GIVEN by the government was TAKEN from someone else!)
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