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The secret behind why Windows 10 is so good [Microsoft Listened to you, more than anything else]
CNN Money ^ | 06/12/2015 | David Goldman

Posted on 06/12/2015 1:33:47 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Microsoft listened to you. More than anything else, that's why Windows 10 won't be another Windows 8 or Vista.

In conversations with CNNMoney, top decision makers at Dell, Hewlett-Packard and Toshiba noted that Microsoft requested their input throughout the process of creating Windows 10. They said Microsoft listened to their feedback -- and, vicariously, PC customers' feedback -- and made a better operating system as a result.

Responding to customer demands. The PC makers said that process was vastly improved from the way that Microsoft (MSFT, Tech30) conducted its business ahead of the Windows 8 launch. They said Windows 8 felt forced on them while Windows 10 felt like more of a conversation.

"It's pretty cool how responsive Microsoft has been to feedback," said Mike Nash, HP's head of product strategy. "We were right there in the room planning Windows 10 with them from very beginning."

"There's a new dawn at Microsoft," said Allison Dew, Dell's marketing chief (and a former Microsoft employee). "What we've seen in terms of development and cooperation with Microsoft this time around is unlike what we've seen in past years."

Windows is good again. The result, they say is a much more refined operating system that customers will get excited about. That's a very different experience from Windows 8, which literally had customers calling their PC companies in droves wondering how to get to the desktop or turn their PCs off.

"We're more excited about this launch than we have been in a really long time," said Dew. "I've been through amazing windows launches and some that weren't quite as amazing. This has the feel of something amazing."

"Windows 8 was a difficult out-of-the-box adjustment to consumers," said Jeff Barney, head of Toshiba's U.S. PC business.

(Excerpt) Read more at money.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: microsoft; windows10; windowspinglist
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To: SmokingJoe
It never took your wife.

You are right. I am expecting a lot to expect new software to do as much as the old stuff. Expecting software to actually save a file and not a blank file is asking too much. Expecting to stay on the same screen when you touch the touchpad is asking a lot. I tried to install 8.1 and lost most of my material, no big deal, it is what I should expect.

61 posted on 06/12/2015 4:19:58 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: tophat9000

10 is the update to 7 that window 8 should of been...

Do I have to go through the “store” to get it?


62 posted on 06/12/2015 4:24:17 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: RayChuang88
The primary issue here is full hardware support for x86-64 CPU instructions and real 64-bit memory addressing if you have 4 or more GB of RAM. I have an old machine running the Intel Dual-Core Pentium CPU (essentially the Intel Core 2 Duo CPU with less on-die memory cache) and with 8 GB of RAM installed; Windows 10 will run fine, if just a touch slow due to CPU limitations.

That's assuming MS provides drivers for the graphics, sound and network devices you have.

63 posted on 06/12/2015 4:41:52 PM PDT by CarmichaelPatriot
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To: bigbob
I just hate sites like this CNN crapsite where after a minute or so, some garbage video finally gets done loading and starts blasting audio.

Get the browser add-on that puts a start button on each movie. Doesn't run until you click on the button.

64 posted on 06/12/2015 4:58:44 PM PDT by upchuck (Downsizing and decentralizing government is something the Republican establishment just wonÂ’t allow)
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To: mountainlion

“Windows 8 is an accumulation of all the bad things that microsoft had done for decades. If you do not turn off the keypad you do now know where you will end up. What a piece of junk. “

On a lot of new cars you have to push a button to start!


65 posted on 06/12/2015 5:13:50 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

On a lot of new cars you have to push a button to start!

It is easy to find out how to shut it down unlike Windows 8


66 posted on 06/12/2015 5:16:53 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
I said the same thing about XP 3 years ago. We are both still alive and well. (Knock on wood)

The NSA, Russia, and China thanks you for your ignorance! Windows XP is trending as the most hackable former desktop OS on the market right now purely because people like you think you can safely use the OS like you always have.

With SSLv3 being unsafe and XP not supporting ANY version of TLS, you're admitting that you're perfectly okay with every last thing you do while connected to the Internet being readable and vulnerable to compromise. I urge you to consider a newer OS for your data's safety!

As for all of the Windows haters, I'm going to enjoy watching everyone's transition from seething hate to consideration to acceptance to love. Microsoft has done something they haven't been able to do since Windows XP. Microsoft is good again. Believe it!

67 posted on 06/12/2015 5:33:02 PM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Okay I misspoke. The desktop is/was disabled in Windows RT. The one person I know that has it has this problem.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2056713/microsoft-downplays-rt-and-hides-the-desktop-on-its-surface-tablets.html


68 posted on 06/12/2015 5:37:31 PM PDT by CommieCutter
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To: JoeProBono

“I’m going to ride Windows 7 till one of us croaks.”

You know, I think Windows 7 is pretty good. The only real problems I have are usually involving peripherals or darn browsers with memory leaks (like, all of them).


69 posted on 06/12/2015 8:04:26 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day".)
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To: tophat9000

“applications or an operating system should be your servant not try to force you into doing it the programmers way....”

That sounds strangely familiar. Where have I heard that before? Ah! Liberal politicians.


70 posted on 06/12/2015 8:05:32 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: rarestia

I would absolutely not use XP in any manner where it could EVER be connected to the Internet, from initial installation forwards. I will only run it on a non-Internet connected VM.


71 posted on 06/12/2015 8:06:06 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day".)
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To: Talisker

So, they made New Coke that tasted like rotted crap.


FWIW, I was watching one of those ‘forgotten history’ programs the other night and they said that the reason New Coke tasted different, i.e. crappy, was that they took the coca leaves out of it.

Most people know that originally Coke contained real coca leaves, but that in 1903, they stopped. But they continued to use ‘decocained’ coca leaves because the taste was important to the product.

But with New Coke, they not only dropped sugar for HCF, but the coca leaves as well.

Thus the ‘crappy’ taste.


72 posted on 06/12/2015 10:31:49 PM PDT by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: mountainlion

Repeating the same old rubbish eh my friend? Been using Windows 8 for years. Never had any problems whatsoever saving any files or installing Windows 8.1 or any of the imaginary stuff you keep making up. Not sure what your agenda is, but again it’s only an operating system and a pretty good one at that. No use getting your knickers in a twist over it is there?


73 posted on 06/13/2015 12:09:01 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: The Antiyuppie

Waterfox - The fastest 64-Bit browser on the web
https://www.waterfoxproject.org/
Waterfox is a high performance browser based on the Mozilla platform. Made specifically for 64-Bit systems


74 posted on 06/13/2015 7:56:59 AM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: SmokingJoe

I guess you have your Bill Gates kneepads on today.


75 posted on 06/13/2015 9:58:51 AM PDT by Fido969
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To: Kirkwood

It’s when a program promises to do something, but doesn’t deliver. Son, I was programming PCs when DOS came in a box and had to be loaded everytime you ran the thing. So go blow your snotty little nose, child.


76 posted on 06/13/2015 10:01:12 AM PDT by Fido969
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To: Fido969

Don’t project your own Tim Cook homoerotic fantasies onto others boy. And stop making stuff up.


77 posted on 06/13/2015 10:22:35 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Fido969

LOL. That’s not even close to the definition of vaporware. I’m also much older and wiser than you, not that age means anything.


78 posted on 06/13/2015 10:33:06 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: SmokingJoe
"Don’t project your own Tim Cook homoerotic fantasies onto others boy. And stop making stuff up."

Hmmm... Well, that's disgusting. I guess you and Bill Gates like to cuddle together.

79 posted on 06/13/2015 11:59:44 AM PDT by Fido969
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To: Kirkwood

Vaporware, you senile old coot.

80 posted on 06/13/2015 12:01:19 PM PDT by Fido969
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