Still a better quarterback than Tebow...
Posted on 06/11/2015 7:24:55 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom
[...] Early reports on Tebow out of the Eagles' OTAs have been overwhelmingly positive. Tebow is throwing the ball better than expected, and he attributes his improvement to his offseason work with House. Tebow said the pair worked “from the ground up,” focusing on “balance, posture, sequencing, timing," per John Gonzalez of CSN Philly.
[...] Reporters at practice are not the only ones who have noticed the improvements that Tebow has made throwing the football. Kelly is excited with what he has seen so far.
“Watch him throw,” Kelly said, per CSN Philly. “I think he’s improved. He spent a lot of time over the last two years in terms of working on his game." [...]
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Oh boy, this should be good......
Yep, cue the Gator Haters.
somehow, someway somebody will make a post connecting far flung dots connecting Tim Tebow and the Duggers...
They can’t help themselves getting in a shot at Christians...
Is this the thread where people who don’t understand football argue that the only reason Tebow isn’t an NFL starter is because he’s an outspoken Christian?
Hmm...Trained by Tom House of Million Dollar arm fame
It’s true and you know it (but clearly you don’t understand football).
It’s the thread where people who *think* they understand football argue that the only reasons Tebow isn’t an NFL starter is because he’s not smart enough and can’t throw a football.
"Think" is lukewarm praise. I hope he's improved, too.
Tebow being an "outspoken Christian" has nothing to do with his not being in the NFL.
Kurt Warner (St Louis Rams / Arizona Cardinals) was a self identified Christian who won a Superbowl while with the Rams and frequently credited God with all the opportunities he was given in the NFL during interviews, etc..
So the whole argument by Tebow supporters is bunk, and I say that as a baptized into Christ in 1999 Christian.
Now, Tebow's over-zealous fan base which appeared at every stadium he played in and created distraction after distraction after distraction for the team he was on, that's another story. What NFL team wanted to put up with the circus Tebow's supporters created? Probably none.
Hopefully his fans have learned the lesson and will leave Tebow alone. Let him play, let his stats speak for themselves for better or worse.
Still a better quarterback than Tebow...
No, this is the thread where people who love football are rooting for a good kid. You will agree he is in a perfect situation with Chip. Go Ducks!
Pray America is waking
You have it all correct except the part about go Ducks.
So you have evidence that, pre-House, Tebow could throw a football? Or does your superior understanding of football show you the real football reason Tebow isn't a starter?
It’s the thread where people who *think* they understand football argue that the only reasons Tebow isn’t an NFL starter is because he’s not smart enough and can’t throw a football.
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Hilarious.
You seem to be referring to the NFL professional player developments types (you know, the folks who make their living doing this) who nearly universally suggested exactly what you state above, hence his absence from the professional ranks for the last couple of years. If Tebow was smart enough and could throw well enough, would he not, in fact, BE an NFL starter? And no, I do not buy the argument that he’s out because he’s a Christian. Too many other Christians in the league now and in the past (Kurt Warner springs to mind).
He seems to be a gamer. always good to have one of these types on your team IF they can earn the roster spot based on their play.
I hope he makes it. I always root for the underdog. Maybe he’ll be the designated 2 point conversion qb. Perhaps he’ll find his niche there.
i’m a Broncos fan. that run of miracle wins in 2011 was a lot of fun. :D
i debated Tebow on Broncos boards at the time. before and after the run of wins. his religious beliefs and presumed political beliefs *ARE* one of the main reasons his detractors mocked him... both on the boards and on ESPN and other places. anyone who says otherwise is full of you know what. some of it is probably also rivals of his college team.
but here’s the reality. Tebow never have those 10,000+ snaps throwing the ball as a drop back passer in HS and college. he did not have the mechanics or polish that NFL GMs want out of their QB. he was always going to be a project. we needed him in Denver sooner than he was ready because we were stuck with Kyle Orton who always quit when the going got tough or the team got to the redzone. the NFL is a “me too” league and trying to insert him into conventional pocket passing system was never going to work in 2011 and that’s what GMs wanted then, so the Broncos changed the system to suit his skills. as a pocket passer, he has no future in the league. that’s why he didn’t stick with NE. his time with the Jets was wasted, since Ryan didn’t want him anyway and he was only used as a gimmick.
what Tebow brings to the table is a winner’s mentality and an ability to improvise and run if need be. but that only matters if teams fear his passing abilities enough to not stack the box.
i wish everyone in the media would leave the kid alone and that he gets an honest shot in Philly. but he needs to have done the work for the past couple of years to get ready to make the best of this opportunity. he’s also inexperienced at reading defenses. in 2011 (his 2nd year), he was tucking it and running or throwing it away when his first read was covered. if you can’t progress through your reads in the NFL, you won’t ever be successful throwing the ball.
so the odds are against him and there are things he has to be able to show he can now do to find a spot in the league, but on a team where the QB is allowed to run, Tebow can be a unique player.
i hope he finds a spot on their roster and that he’s not used just as a gimmick. he’s got a string arm, but his accuracy always suffered due to his mechanics. there was one play where his accuracy was just about perfect though. ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HByT3b_zAJA
Tebow now finds himself with a seemingly supportive coach and the perfect offensive scheme to fit his skill set. Hopefully he will receive a fair shot this time around.
Well, let's see. Tebow was a starter for Denver. His record there, if I remember, was 8 wins, 5 losses. That's a better winning record than the average NFL quarterback that wins 50 percent of the time.
He threw well enough to win a playoff game against a top ranked defense.
With the Jets Tebow completed 75 percent of his passes. After that, fearing he would ruin their 6-10 record, Tebow was forbidden from playing.
You got a point there. No NFL team wants fan(atics)going to the stadiums yelling in the stands, buying tickets, buying T-shirts, arguing about players, plays, and tactics. Next thing the fans will be talking sports at the water cooler at work, posting about the team on Facebook, tweeting, buying advertisers products, reading sports columns and then making comments. No NFL franchise wants that kind of attention from the public. That's why you never see NFL advertising or promotional gimmicks. They don't want the publicity.
Well, let's see. Tebow was a starter for Denver.
During which time he completed only 46.5% of his passes - no evidence there that he could throw a football.
He threw well enough to win a playoff game against a top ranked defense.
Completing only 47.6% of his passes while rushing for 50 yards and a TD - no evidence there that he could throw a football.
With the Jets Tebow completed 75 percent of his passes.
6 of 8, for an average YPC of only 6.5 - 67th out of the 68 QBs who completed a pass that year. No evidence there that he could throw a football.
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