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To: blueunicorn6

I just retired from the Army National Guard after a lot of years and three deployments including two in Iraq (Infantry, outside the wire just for the record). I’ve had to deal with a number of these cases.

One thing that I found striking was the number of suicides who had never deployed, and of those who did, the number who never went outside the wire.

On each of the cases I am familiar with, there were other major issues:

One (deployed, combat vet) was a school teacher who had just been charged with inappropriate contact with a (teen) student;

One (never deployed) was a ‘golden child’ from a prominent family background who had just been arrested for shoplifting;

One (deployed, no combat) had just had a very noisy argument with his wife;

One (never deployed, just back from basic training) hung himself in his parents’ basement;

One (deployed, combat vet) shot himself after getting his 3rd DWI;

One (deployed, no combat) attempted – long term alcoholic whose body started breaking down so he decided to end it (That was one that I got there in time).

There are very complex reasons that generally contain a lot more than ‘served in the military’ or ‘served in combat’.

I don’t discount the idea that we have moved steadily away from belief in a higher power that 1) we are accountable to (suicide is a sin), and 2) that can help us through our problems through prayer and guidance.

I also agree with the poster above who is sick of and sees little use in the constant barrage of suicide briefs.


45 posted on 06/04/2015 4:33:18 PM PDT by AbnSarge
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To: AbnSarge

That’s a great list...

Sub-definitions based upon two categories of “deployed” and “not deployed”...

The last person you noted there was a good save...You did well...


53 posted on 06/04/2015 4:50:30 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I will settle for a "perfectly good, gently used" kidney...Apply within...)
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To: AbnSarge

RE#45 Outstanding rundown.

Thanks for posting that.


75 posted on 06/04/2015 11:51:17 PM PDT by Tailback
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To: AbnSarge

Agreed. Know a Viet era vet who just suicided over criminal charges. Had nothing to do with his military status.


89 posted on 06/06/2015 6:31:07 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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