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To: Ray76

Arthur Schlesinger Jr. and John Kenneth Galbraith were two that insisted after the fall that USSR collapsed under its own weight, and would have fallen without Reagan - which is now the liberal mantra about Reagan and Russia.


13 posted on 06/03/2015 12:16:03 AM PDT by GilesB
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To: GilesB

There’s a great book on the subject:

THE PRESIDENT, THE POPE, AND THE PRIME MINISTER

It tells all about how the actions of each one helped to bring down that system.


14 posted on 06/03/2015 12:20:32 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Le//t Freedom Ring.)
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To: GilesB

The left started that, as soon as they thought of it.

I don’t remember those predictions, and can’t find the articles claiming it, instead the USSR seemed to be winning, and they made huge gains under Carter and after we pulled out of Vietnam.


16 posted on 06/03/2015 12:26:07 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: GilesB

i also recall that angry leftists gave Gorbachev full credit for the dismantling of the USSR. no mention was ever made of Thatcher, Reagan, or Pope John Paul II when they droned on and on about how terrific “old spotty head” was.

i do regret that i was too young (d’oh! by 1 year) to have voted for Reagan in 1984. in my lifetime, i’ve only ever been able to vote for RINOs and squishes... G.H.W. Bush (twice), Dole, G.W. Bush (twice), McCain, and Romney. not a single small government conservative in that bunch. blech.


17 posted on 06/03/2015 12:29:20 AM PDT by TangibleDisgust (The Parmesan doesn't go like that.)
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To: GilesB

Galbraith would, up until the Soviet Union died, tell people about how that country and the East Bloc were more efficient at using resources and that their people were not at all interested in Western capitalism and freedoms. In reality though, that country was basically a Third World one with a large army and good hockey team.


19 posted on 06/03/2015 3:00:36 AM PDT by OttawaFreeper ("Keeping your stick down used to be a commandment, but not anymore" Harry Sinden, 1988)
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To: GilesB
"which is now the liberal mantra about Reagan and Russia."

Actually the liberal mantra is that Gorbachev is the one who ended the cold war, not Reagan. I believe he got a nobel peace prize for it also. Of course those lefties would never recognize Reagan with one. A little story I read once talked about how Nancy Reagan and Raisa Gorbachev were talking during one of the summits and Raisa mentioned about her grandfather. He was one of the farm owners in the 1920's who had his farm confiscated and he was killed by the Soviets. Upon hearing this little tidbit, it told Nancy that we were dealing with a different type of communist now. One that had a direct impact from the evils of communism.
22 posted on 06/03/2015 6:27:52 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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