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To: Swordmaker

How can a person have zero bacteria in the mouth? I have trouble believing that, or that that’s the ideal. Maybe no spirochetes, but no bacteria at all? Just seems next to impossible unless you’re full of antibiotics. Is it documented in the literature that 1 in 200 people has zero bacteria?

Is it conventionally understood that arterial plaques are composed of dead spirochetes? Like has this been proven and accepted? And is it known that the spirochetes are the kind of that live in the mouth?

The common spirochetes in the mouth, they’re not the same ones that cause yaws and syphillis, correct?


70 posted on 06/01/2015 9:15:56 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Yardstick
How can a person have zero bacteria in the mouth? I have trouble believing that, or that that’s the ideal. Maybe no spirochetes, but no bacteria at all? Just seems next to impossible unless you’re full of antibiotics. Is it documented in the literature that 1 in 200 people has zero bacteria?

We had trouble believe it also when we first observed it. Zero bacteria. We took multiple samples from their mouths. We'd find flora, but no fauna. Nothing moving. Dead bacteria from food, etc., but nothing alive. We would LOVE to know why these particular people were anathema to bacteria in their mouths. They were invariably extremely healthy people with beautiful teeth. There was no racial or ethnic division that we could see on the limited samples we had. . . under ten in our office. Other office reported similar small numbers with similar findings. Perhaps something they ate or drank in their diets, perhaps some level of acidity in their saliva, perhaps something in their environment. We did not have the means to test any of that.

Dr. Judit McKlosky has several papers showing exactly what you are asking about the plaque composition in peer reviewed journals. . . I've read them. She is the head of the European Alzheimers Prevention Society. . . and yes, they are oral spirochetes. However, observing spirochetes in blood is EXTREMELY difficult because they have the same transparency as water and glass. . . and you need an expensive version of a microscope, called a phase-contrast microscope, and it has to be very high quality, to even begin to see the living ones. Ours cost over $15,000. . . and most dental offices won't even make the investment. . . and medical doctors don't do anything with the mouth. Shhhhh! That's the dirty secret divide of medicine. MDs don't do anything with the mouth and teeth, which is where everything enters the body, AND it's the only place where the bones of the body stick out into the air. . . and the high and mighty medical doctors essentially won't talk to dentists and oral surgeons (who have just as much anatomy and medicine study as MDs). Really silly turf war, isn't it?

Yaws does invade through the mouth, so it can be called an oral spirochete, but all of these can be dangerous elsewhere. So can syphilis, but not preferentially. There are about nine that live pretty much in the mouth. Yaws attacks the gums and then spreads.

74 posted on 06/01/2015 10:16:10 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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