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To: iowamark

If the South had been successful, Germany wins WWI and no Hitler no holocaust and no Israel, no A bomb, no cold war, no ISIS, no Al Qada and most importantly no Obama.....

I guess it was worth the freedom of 3 million slaves, millions of whose descendants have been casually aborted in America since Roe V Wade and thousands locked away in the awful inner city slums of our nations decaying megatropoli, Chicago,Detroit, Baltimore, Washington,DC.

No, the war was not about Slavery it was about savagery and taking the heart and gold out of the South.


25 posted on 05/20/2015 3:36:05 AM PDT by urbanpovertylawcenter (the law and poverty collide in an urban setting and sparks fly)
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To: urbanpovertylawcenter
If the South had been successful, Germany wins WWI and no Hitler no holocaust and no Israel, no A bomb, no cold war, no ISIS, no Al Qada and most importantly no Obama.....

You have absolutely no way of knowing that.

28 posted on 05/20/2015 3:42:54 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: urbanpovertylawcenter

Well, that’s certainly one way of looking at it.

How about two permanently antagonistic countries on this continent, certainly engaged in an arms race and possibly in repeated wars.

WWI and WWII fought here, for instance, as well as in Europe.

Huge improvement over what actually happened.

What your analysis does is simply assume that none of the bad things of the past 100 years would have happened had the South won, while ignoring the certainty that other bad things would have happened.


29 posted on 05/20/2015 3:50:15 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: urbanpovertylawcenter
If the South had been successful, Germany wins WWI and no Hitler no holocaust and no Israel, no A bomb, no cold war, no ISIS, no Al Qada and most importantly no Obama.....

Where did you buy your Chrystal Ball?

81 posted on 05/20/2015 6:40:07 AM PDT by Ditto
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To: urbanpovertylawcenter
If the South had been successful, Germany wins WWI …

Whoa, there, Nostradamus. Here's a scenario just as likely: Germany's 1918 Offensive fails, and with their economy cracking and the public tired of war, the Bolshevik ideals that prompted the 1918-1919 riots lead to a revolution and a Soviet-aligned Communist state in Germany. Now the Iron Curtain falls in 1919 along the Rhine, and it has a modern industrial state instead of a backwards agricultural one. From there it's easy to imagine all of Europe a communist "Internationale" by the mid-1930s, especially if the Great Depression hits on schedule.

111 posted on 05/20/2015 10:32:59 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels." --Tom Waits)
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To: urbanpovertylawcenter
If the South had been successful, Germany wins WWI and no Hitler no holocaust and no Israel, no A bomb, no cold war, no ISIS, no Al Qada and most importantly no Obama.....

I guess it was worth the freedom of 3 million slaves, millions of whose descendants have been casually aborted in America since Roe V Wade and thousands locked away in the awful inner city slums of our nations decaying megatropoli, Chicago,Detroit, Baltimore, Washington,DC.

No, the war was not about Slavery it was about savagery and taking the heart and gold out of the South.


Hard to say. I'm sure if the Confederates have won, parts of history as we know it would have been butterflied away. I think we might have had an alternate World War I since it was the Empire system in Europe lining up to battle. World War II might have not happened. Some alternate historians have the North and South fighting each other while others have them as allies on the same side. One interesting thing in Harry Turtledove's series on a Southern victory was where the US was a lot more socialist.
156 posted on 05/20/2015 6:30:34 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Mom I miss you! (8-20-1938 to 11-18-2013) Cancer sucks)
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