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Why men won't get married anymore: Women complain chaps today won't settle down.
Daily Mail ^ | 04/19/2015 | Peter Lloyd

Posted on 05/07/2015 5:36:44 AM PDT by BJ1

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To: al_c

Our rotted out society is producing a generation of emotional invalids.People incapable of understanding what love really is,and even having a clue of what’s important in life.
Sure,there are still some decent people out there.But the majority are destined to live miserable lives.


121 posted on 05/07/2015 8:21:45 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: CatherineofAragon
I'll tell you what, Doodle...I wouldn't exchange my husband for all the wealth in the world. Being his Mrs. is beyond all value to me.

But is that value due to being identified in society as Mrs. CatherineofAragon? Or is because of the relationship you have developed with one person based on love and mutual respect, and the fact that you are seen as their spouse is just a part of it? Because that's what I see in my parents life and the life my sister and brother-in-law have built. I have not found that person yet. I hope I do someday, but if I don't I'm not going to consider my life a failure.

122 posted on 05/07/2015 8:21:54 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: MrB
"When they are allowed to not have that restriction on their copulation, there is chaos."

Just WHO are the folks who allow and disallow such things?

As far as I can tell far too few young men have made the sane, rational choice to never marry.

Government-sanctioned marriage and divorce was the death knell for marriage and family.

123 posted on 05/07/2015 8:25:23 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: DoodleDawg

>>>but if I don’t I’m not going to consider my life a failure.<<<

Mind sharing your age? Because I have a feeling if you are unmarried and childless at 60, you might just change your tune.


124 posted on 05/07/2015 8:25:53 AM PDT by BJ1
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To: the OlLine Rebel

“(In all mammalian species, females ARE the natural guardians, just by virtue that their belly protects the fetus rather than merely depending on adults watching eggs, but I digress....)”

And that is where Western culture is digressing toward...the status of animals.


125 posted on 05/07/2015 8:26:40 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: DoodleDawg
"But is that value due to being identified in society as Mrs. CatherineofAragon? "

God, no. Our marriage is between us. I don't care what anyone else thinks.

"Or is because of the relationship you have developed with one person based on love and mutual respect, and the fact that you are seen as their spouse is just a part of it?"

Definitely the former. The latter doesn't enter into it. It's about him, the man.

" Because that's what I see in my parents life and the life my sister and brother-in-law have built. I have not found that person yet. I hope I do someday, but if I don't I'm not going to consider my life a failure."

Well, you shouldn't. But you never know when the right person will come along. In my case, I was 31, sick of dating, and was taking a break from it. A pushy friend wanted me to go out on a blind date, and it took off from there. It was the last thing I expected.

126 posted on 05/07/2015 8:31:44 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office.")
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To: BJ1
Mind sharing your age? Because I have a feeling if you are unmarried and childless at 60, you might just change your tune.

Thirty four. And I'll take my chances.

127 posted on 05/07/2015 8:34:18 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: CatherineofAragon
Definitely the former. The latter doesn't enter into it. It's about him, the man.

And I suspect that in his eyes it's about her, the woman. And that's as it should be - two people who put their spouse above themself. I hope to obtain that someday. I'm in a long term relationship with a wonderful guy who went through a prolonged and acrimonious divorce so he's a bit gunshy about entering into it again. It may change, and if it does then I suspect we'll have the kind of marriage you have, and that my parents and my sister have. But if that doesn't happen then my life will go on.

But admit it. You probably know a lot of couples where it's all about one of them, and the other is constantly catering to their whims and wants. I know I do. That is being married for the sake of being married, and certainly not what I or any rational person would want.

128 posted on 05/07/2015 8:42:31 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: BJ1

It is kind of annoying that such articles invariably talk about the trials of the rich and famous, on a subject in which ordinary people so tremendously outnumber the R&F as to present things as an R&F problem.

If someone has a hundred million dollars and in a divorce, their spouse gets fifty million, they still can get by on 30 million.

But if some guy is a salaried office worker, who makes a gross of $100,000, and a net of $60,000, and in the divorce he loses his home, his car, $40,000 of his income, and then has to pay child support, leaving him with $10,000 to rent an apartment, take public transport, buy insurance, buy food, provide for medical care, etc., he is down to the bone.

On a $100k paycheck. The national average wage income is $44,888.


129 posted on 05/07/2015 8:43:26 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Didn’t we abolish slavery?


130 posted on 05/07/2015 8:49:01 AM PDT by BJ1
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To: DoodleDawg

You made my point exactly.


131 posted on 05/07/2015 9:08:11 AM PDT by bray (Cruz to the WH)
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To: bray
You made my point exactly.

Ditto.

132 posted on 05/07/2015 9:09:14 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: JRandomFreeper; DoodleDawg

You are supposed to kiss her rear because feminists are so much more evolved than men. Who wants to marry that?


133 posted on 05/07/2015 9:13:48 AM PDT by bray (Cruz to the WH)
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To: DoodleDawg

I know I won’t convince you and you won’t convince me of the value or even the legitimacy of feminism but let’s stipulate for a moment that your characterization of it is correct.

If that’s the case then the ‘success’ of feminism has resulted in the very malady being decried in this article.


134 posted on 05/07/2015 9:14:39 AM PDT by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The Ends)
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To: bray
You are supposed to kiss her rear because feminists are so much more evolved than men. Who wants to marry that?

And we're supposed to kiss your behind because men are, well, men? No thanks.

135 posted on 05/07/2015 9:18:40 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg
"And I suspect that in his eyes it's about her, the woman. And that's as it should be - two people who put their spouse above themself."

Absolutely. As long as each spouse puts the other first, things tend to work out.

" I hope to obtain that someday. I'm in a long term relationship with a wonderful guy who went through a prolonged and acrimonious divorce so he's a bit gunshy about entering into it again. It may change, and if it does then I suspect we'll have the kind of marriage you have, and that my parents and my sister have. But if that doesn't happen then my life will go on."

Yes. And I have to admit, I understand how he feels, having been through such a mess. But in the time it takes for him to get over it, the two of you will also be using that time to get to know each other inside & out. If you're right for each other, there won't be any doubt.

'But admit it. You probably know a lot of couples where it's all about one of them, and the other is constantly catering to their whims and wants. I know I do. That is being married for the sake of being married, and certainly not what I or any rational person would want."

I do know people like that. My husband's family alone is rife with divorce. I know I've said it before, but I'm a big supporter of getting to know your prospective spouse, even though it takes time. Most of the unhappy marriages I know of involve people who married too quickly and were unsuited for one another.

Not to say there aren't short courtships which result in great marriages, but...

136 posted on 05/07/2015 9:21:27 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office.")
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To: BJ1

prenupt and STD’s ....


137 posted on 05/07/2015 9:30:50 AM PDT by zzwhale
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To: Jack Hydrazine

The “fatkini”? Talk about defining deviancy down! And yes, I am into “fat shaming”.


138 posted on 05/07/2015 9:56:23 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Fatkini trend inspiring and empowering curvy women everywhere http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/real-life-stories/fatkini-trend-inspiring-empowering-curvy-4070813#ixzz3D2dGpi8n

That's another annoying redefinition of a word by feminists.

Ladies, THIS is curvy:

THIS is morbidly obese:


139 posted on 05/07/2015 10:37:22 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
How is it conservative to deny the aspect of sharing during marriage, or of practically ASSUMING you will get divorced so even worry about selfish things? If you assume you could divorce, you have chosen stupidly.

If I assume my house might catch fire, and get fire insurance, have I chosen my house stupidly. If all the men who got divorced, only a tiny percentage of the contemplated the possibility that divorce might happen. The rest wish they had.

I did not have major assets before marriage, but if I had, my attitude would have been that we both would enjoy the fruits of those assets WHILE married, but she would have no rights to them if the marriage ended.

140 posted on 05/07/2015 10:45:06 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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