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To: Roman_War_Criminal

The scriptures were already provided by the article the thread is on, but here you go.

You have not laid out any scripture that gives any indication of a pre-tribulation rapture as there are none.

The Lord returns ...trumpet...dead in Christ are raised from the dead and receive new resurrected bodies then us who are still alive on earth are caught up with new resurrected bodies and we come down with the Lord to Jerusalem.

Jesus second coming is just that his second coming, there is no third coming of Jesus. We are not given new resurrected bodies to only then be returned to heaven (those believers who have died on earth), these new resurrected bodies are for earth.

How will pre-trib’ers fare in great tribulation when they don’t even understand scripture?

Matthew 24:30-31 “ Then will appear in heaven the sign of the Son of Man, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he will send out his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.”

First Thessalonians 4:16 “For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first.”

First Thessalonians 4:17 “Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord. Therefore encourage one another with these words.”

First Thessalonians 4:13-18 But we do not want you to be uninformed, brothers, about those who are asleep, that you may not grieve as others do who have no hope. For since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so, through Jesus, God will bring with him those who have fallen asleep. For this we declare to you by a word from the Lord, that we who are alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep. For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord. Therefore encourage one another with these words.


90 posted on 05/06/2015 10:57:38 AM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: free_life

I see you’ve ignored every single verse I posted above...and not only that but you have to twist a handful of verses to fit your view.

1 Thess 4:16-17 is the rapture.

Typical Post-Trib response!


92 posted on 05/06/2015 11:26:08 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Unapologetic supporters of Obama, Sodomy, and Abortion will find the afterlife rather torturous)
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To: free_life

You asked, “How will pre-trib’ers fare in great tribulation when they don’t even understand scripture?” Well since I do understand scriptures, and since we will be at the marriage feast, what is happening on Earth at the time will be ‘out of our ‘ken’’. Are you expecting to be here during the Tribulation? Do you want to be here? You could maybe be one of the 144,000 The Holy Spirit selects to evangelize the dying world during the two segments of the Tribulation ... but only if you’re member of one of the twelve tribes from which He will select, excluding Dan.


93 posted on 05/06/2015 11:27:10 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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