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1 posted on 04/26/2015 10:33:43 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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Did she ever find a new husband?


2 posted on 04/26/2015 10:37:33 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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As they say, you can pick to out of three:
quick
cheap
good

though when it comes to raising animals for food, the first two are so intertwined, that you can’t really separate them so the third loses.


4 posted on 04/26/2015 10:41:44 AM PDT by drbuzzard (All animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others.)
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So, where can you get a good old fashioned ‘chicken’ because chicken soup no longer has a good flavor, either.

In fact I just learned that Australian lamb, grass fed, is why I do not like lamb anymore.

The lamb I liked is American lamb, grain fed. Grass fed lambs taste gamey-er, and evidently that is what Australians like.
Why we are buying them is still a mystery to me.

Also, why pork chops don’t make good gravy anymore - another mystery to me.

One last mystery to me that has nothing to do with food but as soon as I write this I’m sure everyone will understand and agree:

I live in Phoenix Arizona. Why isn’t there a train to both California for passengers, and to Flagstaff. Out here in the summer I’d be on that train every weekend, both up and over are cooler.

I’m sure a lot of people would be. But why no one has every made tracks up or down for passengers, when they make everything else, highways, in town shuttle train tracks...

Don’t get it.


5 posted on 04/26/2015 10:43:21 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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Bet her son thinks his mother’s Chicken and Dumplings is the best ever.


6 posted on 04/26/2015 10:43:47 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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I’m old enough to remember what those real chickens tasted like. Chicken was fairly expensive and reserved for Sundays. Meat or fish was the fare the rest of the week.

The skin was more yellow than the current bland white chickens and there was real flavor in those birds. The other flavor I miss from my younger days is real Coca Cola made with cane sugar. That you can still buy if it’s imported from Mexico, $1 for a small bottle.


7 posted on 04/26/2015 10:44:57 AM PDT by DeFault User
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Chicken....much of the packaged beef, veggies of all kinds, for example, celery. Whole Foods celery or farm stands still have it. It’s really green, too.

When I was young, gradation of beef changed. The better beef is in the restaurants now.


9 posted on 04/26/2015 10:54:01 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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According to the article, all chickens available in supermarkets today are broilers. I recall chicken stew made from stewing chickens back in the 1950’s, but if you’re in the market for a stewing chicken today, you’re out of luck.


10 posted on 04/26/2015 10:55:13 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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Best is a pastured chicken. But they are both smaller and more expensive. They do roam the pasture and eat all the little things in nature chickens should eat. And the bird tastes fantastic roasted with salt and pepper. I really can’t afford it because I need two of them to feed my family.

Next best, and very close in taste, is Mary’s organic chicken. They sometimes go on sale at whole foods in CA, don’t know if they go far across the country, but there may be other farms with good tasting commercial chicken.

And don’t ever buy chicken broth because it is all filled with msg, all of it. Even the organic boxes, even the cans that say No MSG on it. They all have it, every single one. I know because it makes me deathly sick. Any soup in any restaurant unless they make it from literal scratch which is 0.02% of restaurants, is made from msg.

Nearly every rotisserie chicken everywhere is full of msg. They spike the water they inject it with before cooking. That is why each bite makes you HAVE to have another bite.

If you want good chicken soup, throw your organic chicken carcass, after carving off the good meat, into a crockpot and fill with filtered water. Add a few tbsp of vinegar.* Cook on high 18-24 hours, then add vegetables, cook another 8-24 hours. Strain, salt to taste. There is the chicken broth you love. It doesn’t make you need another spoonful like the boring umami addictive msg broths. It makes you delight in the taste. There is a HUGE difference.

*The vinegar is to get all the goodness out of the bones. This is why you need an organic bird.


11 posted on 04/26/2015 10:55:55 AM PDT by Yaelle ("You're gonna fly away, Glad you're going my way...")
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A few years ago I had a simple chicken sandwich in Ireland.

It was one of the most delicious things I have ever eaten in my life.

There's way too much frankenfood in the US.

We've been dining on the US equivalent of Victory Gin for quite some time.

12 posted on 04/26/2015 10:57:30 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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I can’t find fruit that tastes like it used to - apples, oranges, peaches - nothing has the flavor or texture it used to.


19 posted on 04/26/2015 11:02:11 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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When I was younger, my grandmother in Alabama used to butcher and cook her own chickens that were allowed to roam about in the barnyard. The chicken was delicious but it was considered a delicacy only on special occasions would she cook chicken as beef, pork, rabbit and catfish was much more plentiful.

Then the big firms like Tyson moved in and started mass-producing chickens. Suddenly they took up most of the space at the supermarket and were cheap.

It is difficult for me to eat the breast meat of supermarket chicken as it's so bland and tasteless. Still plenty of flavor in the legs and thighs so I'll grab those and let the others fight over the breast.


23 posted on 04/26/2015 11:05:58 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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I have always wanted to open a restaurant.

“Tastes like Chicken”

serve all the things that people say “Tastes like Chicken”.


25 posted on 04/26/2015 11:08:34 AM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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“Mom, the tuna doesn’t taste as good as it used to.” - Weemsco Tuna


26 posted on 04/26/2015 11:12:25 AM PDT by dfwgator
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Store bought tomatoes are hydroponicaly grown and taste like water.


28 posted on 04/26/2015 11:15:28 AM PDT by Cry if I Wanna
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Good article.

Although MSG is not something unrecognizable. It is kelp extract. The chemical name Monosodium Glutinate is used because westerners won’t eat seaweed if they know it is there.


29 posted on 04/26/2015 11:17:48 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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They don't make 'em the way they use-ter Mike the Headless Chicken Mike the Headless Chicken, also known as Miracle Mike, was a rooster who lived in Fruita, Colorado, in the 1940s. One day his owner, Lloyd Olsen, chopped off his head to have him for dinner, but he didn't die. Instead he went on to live for nearly 18 months after the beheading, and toured the country in sideshows, posed for Life and Time magazines and newspapers all over the world, and had his own personal manager and lived a life of luxury, staying at the poshest hotels and eating the finest grain (fed to him via an eyedropper down his open esophagus). This is no urban legend -- it really happened and is well documented. The town of Fruita has revived Mike's story and started a festival in his honor. A sculpture was commissioned and now adorns downtown Fruita. The Mike the Headless Chicken Days festival is held in May of every year. [Teri Thomas, 10/02/2000]http://www.roadsideamerica.com/tip/5629
31 posted on 04/26/2015 11:18:34 AM PDT by gusopol3
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...A&P put up $10,000 in prize money and sent wax models of perfect-looking chickens around the country. Whoever could raise the flock of chickens that grew the fastest and looked most like the wax model stood to make quite a bit of money. In 1946 and 1947, regional Chicken of Tomorrow contests were held. The cream of that group was invited to compete in the national event in 1948, which is how 31,680 eggs from 25 different states found their way to a hatchery in Maryland. Once hatched, the chicks were raised in identical pens and fed a secret diet that contained a minimum of 20% protein, 3.5% fat and 7% fiber. After 12 weeks and two days, the chickens crossed the metaphorical finish line — they were slaughtered....

...How did these miracle chickens taste? No one knows. The judges didn’t measure flavor. The point of the contest, after all, was to create a chicken that looked like a wax model. The very principle demonstrated at the Chicken of Tomorrow contest would go on to doom the flavor of chicken and dumplings for decades to come: Chickens can be changed through breeding.

MTS3K

33 posted on 04/26/2015 11:20:08 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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“Low fat” is one way they’ve taken the taste out- and people don’t mind because people think all calories are bad!
Skinless breasts are inedible by themselves yet they’re always in the coolers.

What does the food industry do with all the fat they take out of everything?
They must make more money using the fat in something else but I’ve never figured out what.


37 posted on 04/26/2015 11:25:32 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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“The taste of animal flesh is strongly influenced by what an animal eats. Flavor compounds in the food birds eat find their way into bird tissue.”

I can attest to this when fishing a certain pond in Hulbert, Oklahoma

There are these yellow and very fragrant flowers surrounding the pond I use to catch fish in.

When cooking them they give off an aroma evocative of the pond and its surroundings.

The taste? So sweet and delicious.

Catching fish just a mile down the road, out of the lake produces fish that are delicious as well but, nothing like the bass of that pond.

Still not moving back though..


43 posted on 04/26/2015 11:44:52 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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All very simple. Best explained perhaps by a recent evening in which I watched the movie Marny on Netflix. Very first scene was in his butcher shop. Sign for chicken on the wall, .53/lb.

Recently was in Publix. Chicken was 1.49/lb.

Median income in 1955 was around $5000. Today it’s around $50,000. So income has gone up 10x, while price of chicken has gone up less than 3x. This means chicken, in real terms, costs less than 1/3 what it did 60 years ago.

Tasty chicken could still be produced and sold, using the old methods, but it would cost a multiple of what it did back then. Most people think of chicken as a commodity and won’t pay more.

Same exact scenario as airplane flights. People complain about the service but always take the lowest price. What do they think will happen to quality in such a scenario? Someone providing higher quality, by definition, has higher costs and can’t compete with somebody willing to cut quality.

It’s odd, we have a whole range of qualities at different prices for cars, liquor, restaurants, housing and a lot of other things, but not for meats, airplane flights and many other things. The entire difference being whether the market is willing to pay more for higher quality.


44 posted on 04/26/2015 11:47:10 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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