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UFC's McGregor On Mayweather: "I'd Kill Him In Less Than 30 Seconds"
MSN.com ^ | 16 April 2015

Posted on 04/16/2015 12:37:06 PM PDT by zeestephen

"I don't look at a man who's expert in one area as a specialist," McGregor told Esquire. "I look at him as a rookie in ten other areas...It would take me less than thirty seconds to wrap around him like a boa constrictor and strangle him."

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To: PUGACHEV
RE: “Pelican Man”

Ali was almost 35 years old in that fight.

His legs were gone five years earlier, when he had to do Rope-A-Dope against Joe Frazier in 1971.

21 posted on 04/16/2015 1:22:39 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

An expert display of ground fighting doesn’t bore me at all.

Watching someone like Demian Maia muscle blanket his opponent for 5 rounds makes my want to kill myself in the face.


22 posted on 04/16/2015 1:31:02 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless)
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To: zeestephen

Pretty safe bet that the athlete force to fight by the other’s rules would lose.


23 posted on 04/16/2015 1:31:09 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: zeestephen

This Irish guy is a bum. What a disgusting thing to say about a guy who has done nothing but excel in his life.


24 posted on 04/16/2015 1:31:57 PM PDT by alstewartfan (It's the superannuation of a love affair that never quite got started. Al Stewart "Pictures in Wine")
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To: zeestephen
Based on the rules adopted during the Ali fight, I'm skeptical that the martial artists had unfettered use of their limbs:

In the days leading up to the fight Ali and Inoki's representatives began to renegotiate the rules. A list of restrictions was imposed on Inoki. He would not be allowed to throw, grapple or tackle Ali, and could not land any kicks unless he had one knee on the mat.[3] Ali's camp also demanded that the rules not be made public before the fight. Judo expert and US Marine Donn Draeger noted: "The rules have been so seriously modified that the contest is no longer boxing versus wrestling. Unless this were done there would be no way to choreograph the match and make it look convincing. Ali can grapple or punch the man down; Inoki is not allowed to leg-dive or tackle. That latter restriction is the same as prohibiting Ali from jabbing. What a farce!".[4]

The fight

As soon as the opening bell rang, Inoki ran the 16-foot gap and slid at the legs of Ali, who sidestepped the attack. Inoki stayed on the ground for all but the first 14 seconds of the three-minute first round, kicking at Ali and landing one clean hit to Ali's right leg. The majority of the fight saw Inoki on his back kicking Ali's legs, occasionally connecting. By the third round, a wound had appeared on Ali's left knee.[3]

Ali began walking around the ring, out of reach of Inoki's kicks, taunting him by shouting "Coward Inoki! Inoki no fight!". In the fourth round, Inoki, still on his back, trapped Ali in a corner and started kicking wildly at his thighs. Ali leapt up on to the ropes and tucked his legs underneath him. In round six, Ali tried to grab Inoki's left ankle as he kicked him, but Inoki wrapped his right leg around Ali's right calf and flipped him over on the canvas. He then rolled over on top of Ali's chest. While in this hold, Inoki elbowed Ali in the face, costing him three points.[4]

Ali did not throw his first punch until the seventh round. In the eighth, Ali's trainer, Angelo Dundee, demanded that Inoki tape the tips of his shoelaces, claiming that one of the eyelets came loose and was cutting Ali's legs. A wound had already opened up on his thigh. In the tenth, Ali threw his second punch, and two more in the thirteenth. He threw only six punches in total during the fight.[5]

The fight, went the fifteen round distance and was scored as a draw. Inoki had been three points up but was docked all three for fouls. The result meant no one had to lose face; Inoki could claim he would have won had it not been for the penalties, whereas Ali could defend himself by saying his opponent had cheated.[4]

Aftermath

The fight was poorly received. The crowd at the Budokan threw rubbish into the ring and chanted "Money back! Money back!". Donn Draeger said of the response: "the Budokan janitorial people took almost a full day to clean up the garbage that was hurled at the two 'combatants' as the result of their lousy performance".[4]

The public, unaware of the restrictions put on Inoki, were critical of his tactics during the fight. Inoki's right leg, the leg he had used for the majority of his kicks was broken. During the fight Ali's left leg was badly swollen and bleeding, which led to an infection. He also suffered two blood clots in his legs affecting his mobility for the remainder of his boxing career. At one point amputation was also discussed.[3]


25 posted on 04/16/2015 1:32:23 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: taxcontrol

Perhaps but when you tackle someone, you are running at them with your head tucked down, so they are only getting a free shot at the top, back, or maybe the sides of your head. Might still be able to do some damage, but not as likely to get a knockout like that.


26 posted on 04/16/2015 1:32:32 PM PDT by Boogieman
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Me thinks many here do not do much fighting. Mayweather might last longer than 30 seconds but not by much.


27 posted on 04/16/2015 1:32:53 PM PDT by QuisCustodiet1776 (Live free or die.)
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To: Zhang Fei

A low blow means the groin area.

Kicks to the legs were allowed.


28 posted on 04/16/2015 1:33:40 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

If all you do is box you will be a victim of every grappler from beginner to master no matter what is in your fists.


29 posted on 04/16/2015 1:34:11 PM PDT by Ajnin (Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinion of sheep.)
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To: Boogieman

I can and have broken someone’s collar bone when they rushed me like that (accidental elbow blow to the collar bone from me covering up). While that stopped the fight and I won from a TKO, I noted that it becomes very difficult to implement ANY kind of hold when your shoulder is broken.


30 posted on 04/16/2015 1:38:01 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: zeestephen
Looks like Inoki beat Spinks outright a decade later. Still, it's unclear if this second fight was fixed, given that it took place near the height of the Japanese bubble, and involved a loss by submission rather than a draw after significant injury on both sides. From the Wiki:

In 1986 Spinks would also fight and lose to Inoki in the eighth round of a match for the WWF World Martial Arts Heavyweight Championship.

31 posted on 04/16/2015 1:49:13 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: vbmoneyspender
Fights with limited or no rules almost always end up on the ground - where the wrestler is king.

Say that again! I've bounced in a number of bars and I never saw a fight last more than a minute with both men still standing. The ground fighter always wins.

It ain't like the movies.

32 posted on 04/16/2015 2:00:22 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: showme_the_Glory

I really miss the PKA. Bob “Thunder” Thurman, Alvin Prouder, Jerry Trimble, Rick “The Jet” Roufus, Dennis Alexio, John Yves Therioux, “Superfoot” Wallace. The UFC doesn’t even come close.


33 posted on 04/16/2015 2:10:45 PM PDT by Hiro Protaginast
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To: zeestephen

And that’s why it’s called boxing, not street fighting. How long would he last if he had to follow the rules of Mayweathers sport? personally I never had any interest in watching someone take a guy down and then beat the crap out of him until the Ref finally pulled him off, kinda like watching an out of control PitBull.


34 posted on 04/16/2015 2:17:10 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Hiro Protaginast

Random Trivia:

Bill Wallace was an announcer for the 1st UFC event, he famously flubbed his opening monologue by burping/hiccuping: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzynOCnAVqU

Rick Roufus’ younger brother, Duke, is a renowned MMA trainer.

If you like high level kickboxing, the best right now is Glory. You can watch Glory Kickboxing on Spike TV.


35 posted on 04/16/2015 2:18:34 PM PDT by ConservativeTeen (Proud Right Wing Extremist)
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To: chris37

Don’t forget the lay and pray of Jon Fitch.


36 posted on 04/16/2015 2:20:47 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: alstewartfan

Disgusting? What are you a pansy? All Mayweather and McGregor do is talk smack. Stick to golf.


37 posted on 04/16/2015 2:22:19 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: EEGator

hah!

It’s been a long time since I’ve seen Fitch. I think he got fired form the UFC or something, but I’m not sure what the reason was.

He was a fighter who did not have any sort of ability or way to finish a fight.

He could go forever, but that is not necessarily a good thing for fans on its own, I’d say.


38 posted on 04/16/2015 2:24:06 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless)
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To: EEGator

No. I think there has to be a level of respect among fighters. I can’t relate to punk talk. “Kill” is inexcusable. You can be colorful without crossing the line. And hey Bud, what’s wrong with golf? lol


39 posted on 04/16/2015 2:27:41 PM PDT by alstewartfan (It's the superannuation of a love affair that never quite got started. Al Stewart "Pictures in Wine")
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To: PUGACHEV
Few these days remember Ali vs. The Pelican Man. I was in High School at the time, and even many fight fans here took little notice of the match. Sadly, it had grave consequences for Ali. His legs were never the same from all of the kicks he took. Without his ability to "float like a butterfly", Ali had to change his style and adopt the Rope-a-Dope, which may have lead to his present condition.

Absolutely fascinating post, thanks! Answers questions I've had for years about Ali. I never heard of Inoki or this fight and I was in HS too at the time.

40 posted on 04/16/2015 2:27:49 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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