Your mama, Ronald.
A half a degree fluctuation? THAT'S IT????
And they want to spend $TRILLIONS and turn over to government control of all industry?
And they call us morons...
Ronald would fail high school physics.
Man-made global "anything" is fiction.
It's the new Communism.
When the Sun eventually, inevitably, draws its last breath, there will be permanent global cooling and all scientists and Al Gore will be joyous.
1) Significantly warmer temperatures on a global scale that are verifiable. (So far that is not the case.)
2) The temperatures need to be elevated for 30-years without stops and starts.
3) Those exact temperature increases need to be accurately predicted by a computer model that does not get changed to meet the new data.
4) There must be a scientifically valid and repeatable scientific experimental model that ties in man’s activities with the increased temperature.
Get those things and I will move significantly from my skepticism.
Oldplayer
Actual physics showing an exponential increase in EMR energy absorption when CO2 ratio goes from 100 to 200 PPM. By exponential it would take a huge factor because of the small percentage of the atmosphere represented. It would have to be an overall EMR absorption increase not just a fixed frequency that represents no actual thermal energy. It would have to be provable by actually changing the whole body’s reflection and emission of energy back into space. Since global warming is NEVER presented in actual terms of physics I’m not too concerned that I will soon be convinced.
Not peer reviewed so irrelevant. ;-)
I’d like to see him debate Lord Monckton or any of the folks here:
http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/environment/story.html?id=c6a32614-f906-4597-993d-f181196a6d71
“Climate change: The Deniers: The Post’s series on scientists who buck the conventional wisdom on climate science”
I use that example because it is from the time the disingenuous author changed his mind.
The ability to accurately predict would be evidence they understand the mechanisms. Even using a model and then filling in the inputs as they happen and getting the right result would be nice. That the models continuously go off the rails in only 5-10 years without revision suggests that they don’t actually understand the important and importance of mechanisms.
Even sceptics don’t argue that man has not impacted climate in some measure...but the evidence so far is that it is somewhere between “lost in the noise”, and less than half the effect.
When Al Gore is your spokesperson, it’s really hard to believe anything you say.
I will believe it when liberals start accepting that they might possibly be wrong. Until then, it is cult-think.
There is no well substantiated data in this article. Indeed, mentioning satellite data from the 50s, ignoring that measurements are now available from many different locales, and ignoring temperature differences measured on other planets seems to be some of the least of the assumptions made. The author assumes that if there is warming, it is man-made. The author buys into the false CO2 preceding temperature rise meme. There is nothing here to change the mind of anyone who examines their data.
If the warming has been MASKED for the past 18 years (for whatever reasons the algorists want to cite), then how can they also cite EVIDENCE of EFFECTS OF THE WARMING???
How can the warming be MASKED and at the same time CAUSING EFFECTS???
No one ever addresses this question.
Another thing that keeps me from believing man-made climate change is the people who embrace it most had an agenda before they adopted the belief.
It could be warming, I don't really know because they have been caught in so many lies and exagerrations I just don't think that we caused it.
In the 1980s that's what the same voices were saying about the end of the 20th century. We are now 15% of the way into the next century and their doomsday tales were vastly overstated.
Ted Danson admits sheepishly that they HAD to be scaremongering back then to get the public to pay attention. They knew that the oceans would not be dead by 2000.
In 2000, they were claiming that British children would never see another snowfall.
ENOUGH of the bullstalin already.
And since non-tortured data indicates that our temperature has been flat (and perhaps cooling) - I just say 'go away' you carbon tax lusting trolls.
First, it would be good if they could should a direct effect between CO2 and warming, while also showing the effect of water vapor and other gases have on the climate.
Second, they would have to show climate models that better predict the rise in temperature compared to reality, which use more accurate data, and not cherry-picked and processed data. Not to mention that all of the data and models should be open for public scrutiny.
Third, they would have to show why warming is bad. The seas rising and more extreme weather conditions have not panned out as they have predicted. To me, a warmer planet would mean long growing seasons in many parts of the word, and the extra CO2 would lead to more plant life, and therefore food. Yes, places that are a desert now would be more of a desert later, but they are deserts.
Fourth, they would have to show a reasonable solution to solve the problem. There must be ways to combat this problem that doesn’t cripple the economy or involve a massive reduction of the population. And if there is no way to reverse the problem, then it is not an issue.
Otherwise, this looks like a political alarmist agenda to undermine democracies and republics for a centrally planned economy. And we all know how that turned out in the last century...
Even if we suspended reality, played along, and went out on a limb and took the temperature(s) of the planet are increasing because of man’s a-b-c activities, at face value, I fail to see how the left’s policies and so-called, “solutions” reverse a single damn thing. How does transferring of wealth from one country to the next and setting environmental policy so strict that it does nothing more than stifle innovation and consolidate power to the few, help the planet or environment?