Evidently it didn’t matter for Obama.
It doesn’t matter anymore Obama broke the glass border already...next ???
You’re treading dangerous waters here, FRiend. I agree it needs to be discussed, but I think too many FReepers are still high on the Cruz speech to breach this subject.
Under prevailing US law at the time of Obama’s birth, he should have assumed Daddy’s citizenship due to his mother’s age. Not the case with Cruz.
That said, it also depends on whether you are in the camp of the “old” or “new” definition of ‘Natural Born Citizen’.
Don’t worry. There will be a lot of people coming along on both sides of the issue giving you 6 dozen reasons why he’s eligible, and a similar number of reasons why he isn’t.
....citizenship “at birth” of one born outside of the United States to only one citizen-parent, that such citizen parent have resided in the United States for not less than ten years, at least five of which were after the age of fourteen (8 U.S.C. §1401(a)(7)) (1958 ed.)
We all know Mr. Obama’s mother didn’t met this requirement.
The Obama citizenship ruckus was always a silly ploy by people who think they, not the courts, are the ultimate interpreters of the law.
bfl
Because Emperor Zero was twice elected as President. The libs got what they wanted: establishing that anyone whose mother is an American can legally be President.
Okay, now we go Alinsky on them, and use it against them.
Let’s re-frame the issue. We have Ted Cruz, who has argued 7, 8, or 9 cases before the Supreme Court, I forget the number. Dershowitz called him his brightest student ever. Do you think you or I or anyone on this board has a better grasp of the legal underpinnings than he does?
With respect, I don’t see what you are going to gain expending brain cells on this point.
Very good question. I remember reading that there was a distinction between the cases but cannot remember specifics.
No confusion.
After Obama — it just doesn’t matter anymore.
According to Title 8 section 1401 of the US Code, Congress has expressed it’s will with regards to the enumerated and unrestricted power to make the rules of naturalization. This includes who needs naturalization and who does not.
At the time of Obama’s birth, those rules were slightly different than today’s rules. Understand that there are two paths to NBC status, but both are dependent on being born a US citizen and not requiring naturalization. At the time of Obama’s birth, the US citizen parent of a child could confer citizenship but only if they had met certain requirements. Obama’s mother did not and thus could not have passed citizenship at birth. That is why the Obama team has been so focused on LOCATION. If Obama was born in the US, then he is a NBC, no question.
Mr Cruz is a NBC as his mother fully met the requirements to pass citizenship at birth.
Cruz is an American, and Obama isn’t, regardless of where they were born.
When Bammy’s mom plopped out a steaming pile of obama, if she did it in Kenya she would have been too young to convey U.S. citizenship to it.
Cruz’s Mother was plenty old to be able to convey citizenship to Cruz even if he was Born on the moon.
Because he was a U.S. citizen at birth (his mother was a U.S. citizen who lived in the U.S. for more than 10 years as required by the Nationality Act of 1940), most commentators believe Cruz is eligible to serve as President of the United States.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationality_Act_of_1940
Personally, my problem with Obama was/is with the lies about his birth.
As so often is the case, the cover-up is worse than the crime.
Being a liar disqualifies a person to be president, imo.
I believe the bone of contention that IF he were born in Kenya, his Mother not being 18 years old yet would not confer citizenship on her son. Some convoluted thing about it if I recall correctly.
The immigration law at the time of their birth required the mother to have 5 years of residence after age 17 to confer status if the child was born overseas and the father could not qualify. If Obama had been born in Kenya, he would not have qualified. (There are other rules that disqualified them, but don’t need to be rehashed here.) Those same rules grant Cruz citizenship at birth - which meets the court’s definition of Natural Born.
In 1986 and 2000 the rules were changed again to make it even easier to qualify...
as for lil Barry, my thinking is, both his parents were American citizens. Barack Obama, the Kenyan was a strawman brought in to give the little bastard a last name. Barry Marshall probably did not play too well with Grandma and Grandpa.