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I got out of chemo early and had so much time, I decided to reward myself and take myself to lunch. I just HAD to have my favorite: Portobello Ravioli. So I went and ate lunch and gave the server my card. She didn't have to leave my sight because of where I was sitting. Ok, I gave the server the wrong card, she came back and told me this card only has x.xx on it. I say that's not possible, can you try it again? (chemobrain) So she does. Then another person tried it and came back and told me, sorry, it says it only has x.xx on it (same amount) So I ask the mgr to try it and I wait, he comes back and says I didn't try it, but I took care of this, you don't owe anything. (which was a nice blessing but....) I tell him no, I offer him the right card, but he says it's all taken care of. So I call the CU and say what is going on???? What is my balance? How can they tell me this number, which is my balance? HOW COME THEY CAN TELL ME MY BALANCE??????? They switch me around a bit and call me back and apparently here's the thing. The merchant bank (Olive Garden's bank) can decide whether to get the balance on a debit card or not. and Olive Garden's bank has decided to do that. Do you realize that, about your debit card?? That any ole body could conceivably see your balance?? And no, they can't get into your account, but what if the server sees you have a nice chubby balance and spoofs your card????? This is so unacceptable to me. Now I'll never be able to use a debit card without wondering if they'll be able to know just how much is in my account (except at OG, where I know they'll be able to know my balance) I'm done with debit cards! This is just not right!
1 posted on 03/12/2015 6:38:04 AM PDT by Shimmer1
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Did not know that. Thanks for the heads up.


2 posted on 03/12/2015 6:40:53 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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This is why I don’t use debit cards. PERIOD................


3 posted on 03/12/2015 6:41:16 AM PDT by Red Badger (Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
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You ate at Olive Garden??? Not much better than MacDonalds.


4 posted on 03/12/2015 6:42:35 AM PDT by Mr_Peter
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Basically you should never use a debit card. I really don’t like even carrying one, although that’s somewhat of a necessary evil for ATM access.

Find a good credit card and pay it off every month. You have very little protection with a debit card. Eventually everyone’s number gets stolen. It’s much better to have that be a cc than a card linked to your bank account.


5 posted on 03/12/2015 6:44:13 AM PDT by vmivol00 (I won't be reconstructed.)
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You're right about not letting that card out of your sight, debit or credit.

"Honey, What the hell did you buy today?"

"Nothing dear, why?"

6 posted on 03/12/2015 6:44:39 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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I have never used a debit card........... And I have only eaten at
Olive Garden once. Once was enough.


7 posted on 03/12/2015 6:47:57 AM PDT by Ditter
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My guess here is that the balance shows only if it is insufficient to cover the purchase, not always. This way the customer has the option to use that balance and cover the difference in some other manner (a different card or cash). I’ve seen maybe a couple dozen Olive Garden tickets run on my debit card, and never seen a line item for my debit card balance.


9 posted on 03/12/2015 6:51:45 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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Keep a savings account linked to your checking account and put money in to it when needed. Keep the balance relatively low. That’s if you HAVE to use a debit card. It is better to have a credit card with the same bank so you can transfer money from your checking account to the credit card. That’s just s press of a button.

I did some of this months ago after someone used my debit card to buy several online gift cards to Nordstroms. My bank caught the scammers immediately but it was a pain. I had to get a new debit card plus they jacked 5 figures out of that checking account.

My advice is to NEVER use a debit card for online purchases. NEVER. Always use a credit card.


10 posted on 03/12/2015 6:52:23 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (NO MORE IRS!)
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I had a similar incident with a Debit Card.

With my bank’s help, they issued me a Credit Card - and informed me never to use a Debit Card for online purchases.

Everybody needs to be aware of their bank accounts. We’re living in a new world.


11 posted on 03/12/2015 6:52:50 AM PDT by CyberAnt ("The hour has arrived to gather the Harvest")
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Well... I suppose even a gas pump can learn at least some minimal information from a declined debit card transaction, but that's a hazy data point compared to the dollars and cents "available" in an account.

Restaurant transactions are high on the list of small-scale ID thefts.

15 posted on 03/12/2015 7:00:56 AM PDT by Prospero (Si Deus trucido mihi, ego etiam fides Deus.)
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This goes back a long time, so thing may have changed.

They used to be able to do an inquiry (the merchant’s bank) to see if there is enough money to do the transaction. Then they will place a “hold” or “grab” that amount. You see this happen often when using it for gas or for a hotel.

I am sure that this number has ALWAYS been transmitted back to the merchant bank. Credit cards always do this when beginning a transaction. Debit cards use the Visa network to run their transactions (or MC, whatever the little sign on the front of the card says.)

The difference is that this number USUALLY gets stopped at the merchants bank. Usually, it is part of an algorithim for use in the “go/no go” decisions.

I ran my own business for the past thirteen years and I get debit card payments every day. I never see the customer’s balance. Never.

So, I think who ever set up the in-store payment system at that place missed a flag in the set up process.

Long story short: The available “credit” has always been exchanged between the merchant bank and your bank. Sending it along to the terminal at the end is a mistake of the on site payment system.

I can attest that for at least a dozen years, I have never had access to the customer’s available balance or credit line, nor have I ever seen a place where I could turn on such a flag in any of my online set up routines.


16 posted on 03/12/2015 7:00:59 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (When you are inclined to to buy storage boxes, but contractor bags instead.)
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Wise folk know NEVER USE DEBIT CARDS:

1. When you have to give the card to someone that you are not watching closely and carefully for every second they have it (like a waitperson at a restaurant);

2. Online.

3. And any other place where someone can get your number/and CC;

REMEMBER: On a debit card, all disputes are on your nickel! The bad guys have your money UNTIL you can prove it’s not theirs; on a credit card, you are protected, and they have to prove the charge is legit, and you are not out the money.


19 posted on 03/12/2015 7:04:25 AM PDT by Arlis
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I don’t think they know your balance, they just know that there are insufficient funds to pay the bill. The same is true with credit cards. Businesses do not know the amount of credit remaining on your account, they just know that there is insufficient credit. With that said, I only use a debt card at a well known ATM machine. It is a credit union ATM at my workplace. I use that once a month for what I call walking around money. The rest of time I use a credit card. I get alerts on my phone anytime it is used and it is near instantaneous. I placed an Internet order last night. I received both a text message and email from the credit card company before I received the confirmation of the purchase from the business. So if my card is used I can take immediate action. The credit card also offers free credit reports and fraud prevention.


20 posted on 03/12/2015 7:06:14 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (#JuSuisCharlesMartel)
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OTOH, this can keep your account from being overdrawn, which is nice. Perhaps they can only see an amount up to the value of the check.


32 posted on 03/12/2015 7:17:45 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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i only use my debit card at my bank... then cash everywhere else. on rare occasions i will use a credit card for larger purchases.

another tidbit largely unknown by the public....

any funds deposited via direct deposit can be withdrawn as an ‘accounting error’ ... with no time limit. a company i knew did this to their employees. they pulled a few paychecks and immediately declared bankruptcy. the people were out the cash with no recourse.

this is why i recommend never doing direct deposit.


34 posted on 03/12/2015 7:35:30 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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btw, here’s a tip for those stuck on the road and having to use a credit card in restaurants.

always figure the tip so the total bill ends in the same 2 digits.

ie:
your special code - 77

bill total - $10.52
tip - $ 2.25 (20% plus fudge factor to get to your special digits)
total including tip - $12.77

this allows you to glance down your credit card statement and quickly spot the items of interest


35 posted on 03/12/2015 7:40:26 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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Do you realize that, about your debit card??

Don't use a debit card. Period. They are inherently insecure and it's not worth the occasional convenience.

36 posted on 03/12/2015 8:01:08 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Where am I to go now that I've gone too far?)
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Prayers for your health. Don’t let this nonsense get you too worked up !


38 posted on 03/12/2015 8:04:33 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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Funny I was just thinking about breaking down and getting a debit card because I write so many checks. Maybe not.


42 posted on 03/12/2015 9:02:32 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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Cash is king.


54 posted on 03/12/2015 9:49:29 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks ( _\\//)
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