The Progressive Myth of Creativity, Ken Robinson, and the Worst World Order

American Thinker ^ | Nov. 25, 2013 | Bruce Deitrick Price

[demshateGod]

This writer couldn’t be more wrong.

[Tellurian]

Creativity is having the wit to capitalize on your mistakes.

After deep immersion in a subject, and drawing on frequent immersion in various subjects, eventually your brain gets something mixed up between the subjects. Sometimes, that momentary confusion is a novel concept worthy of inquiry - creation, if you have the where-with-all to see it.

[JRandomFreeper]

Care to elaborate? Because I think creativity requires mind-numbing rote learning at some point.

/johnny

[cripplecreek]

Progressives speak a lot of nonsense and declare it to be profound. They don't even agree on what something means but they claim that the "multiple" meanings proves how profound it really is.

This photo by Andreas Gursky is a perfect example of profound nothing of progressivism. A collector paid some $4.5 million for it. Gursky claims it portrays the constraints mankind has placed on the world's waterways.



There is no real creativity or artistry to it. I actually like minimalistic art but this is straight lines sold on the claim that they mean something profound.

To me, its a perfect example of the damage progressives are doing to all arts and sciences.

[Thorliveshere]

And I think he couldn’t be more right.

[cripplecreek]

I’ve never thought of creativity as something that must be learned and progressivism damn sure isn’t the place to learn it if it was.

If anything, progressives are desperately trying to bring about a new dark age by trying to constrain everything to one size fits all formulation.

[RedMDer]

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[jonascord]

A trust fund 'collector' was conned out of 4.5 mill by some grafter, in the name of "art" (small 'a').

The longer artists and leftists indulge in this mutual masturbation, the less focused they are on the rest of the world, which benefits us.

The dumb, stupid, you know, democrats will be left behind.

[blueunicorn6]

You have to understand the science of a discipline before you can become an artist in a discipline.

[cripplecreek]

The longer artists and leftists indulge in this mutual masturbation, the less focused they are on the rest of the world, which benefits us.

Bingo. As long as we continue to teach our children to be the true free thinkers they will be the innovators.

[spintreebob]

We are educating people out of their creative capacities.

A main pillar of the left is Rousseau’s NOBLE SAVAGE. European Pagans and natives of Africa, Asia, Australia and the Americas were all good people with no problems until Judeo-Christian-Greco-Roman imperialist ideas colonialized their brains. The main purpose of education is to liberate them from those imperialist ideas.

Most leftiss are the unabomber without the bomb...Bill Ayers without the bomb...just the desire to destroy our oppressive culture.

[jimpick]

I pulled my kids out of public school because they were not being taught correctly. Sight words instead of phonics. they were behind in reading at that point now they are way ahead.

And a funny thing happened the other day. My 14 year old was fighting my 16 year old for a advanced chemistry book. My sixteen year old wanted to keep it and my 14 year old wanted to learn it.

How many teenagers in public school fight over a textbook about alkanes and alkenes?

[Thorliveshere]

I’ve never thought of creativity as something that must be learned and progressivism damn sure isn’t the place to learn it if it was.

Yep, I don't think creativity can be learned either. I'm sick of progressives trying to make EVERYBODY "creative," I mean, I don't want everybody "creative" where everybody is an artist, a poet, a fashion designer, what have you. We NEED engineers! And we need chemists, and we need all of those "boring" careers to keep this country competitive and ahead of the game!

"Creativity" pushes everybody out of practical fields and into areas where they end up selling their paintings at the local art fair for $2.00 a piece. Am I making sense?

[cripplecreek]

We NEED engineers! And we need chemists

Those are creative careers but even there progressives are trying to force them into a box which is pretty damaging to all of society.

[demshateGod]

You certainly need to drill information into kids. However, the design of corporate education is fundamentally flawed.

Ken Robinson’s main thesis is knowing what kids (and anyone else) are made to do. What brings them joy, what they’re good at, and what sustains them. He’s against one-size fits all style of education that’s designed to bring everyone into subjection through reward and punishment. Some kids really struggle in that conformity system. He actually has the best argument for homeschooling outside of God’s explicit command. I was in public school, creativity is not the enemy. The schools have an aggressive program of conformity. The Element is a great book.

[Thorliveshere]

Yep. We need to go back to what worked. Common Core is disastrous.

[JRandomFreeper]

Corporate education, along the lines of a long-dead german, is way out of line, but memorizing multiplication tables isn't corporate education. It's just education.

/johnny

[PieterCasparzen]

Tax dodge.

[PieterCasparzen]

Before producing anything creative in a field, one first must get a clue about the field.