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Alan Turing and the New Emergentists
Evolution News and Views ^ | February 18, 2015 | Erik J. Larson

Posted on 02/18/2015 5:46:00 AM PST by Heartlander

Alan Turing and the New Emergentists

Erik J. Larson February 18, 2015 4:29 AM | Permalink

The acclaimed Alan Turing biographical film The Imitation Game is up for multiple Oscars on Sunday. It is a tale of Turing as a tragic hero and misunderstood genius, irascible, certainly idiosyncratic, who insinuates himself into a job interview at Bletchley Park as a self-proclaimed mathematical genius, which later is born out as true. He "invents" the digital computer to solve the decryption challenge posed by the German Enigma machines, and thus saves the Allied powers from Hitler.  

The film is a human-interest story, and accurate enough, though John von Neumann in the U.S. was busy engineering a prototype as well. However you wouldn't watch it with an eye toward learning about the history of computing, or perhaps most interesting, about Turing's legacy in current thought about Artificial Intelligence.

Well, what shall we say of that legacy?

To decide whether a machine has a mind, Turing famously said, talk to the machine. Language is for minds, and so if we can't tell the difference between a machine and a human in conversation (say, by teletype or text), then we should grant the machine the status of a human mind.

Practitioners of AI often call natural language understanding "AI-Complete," meaning a computer that interprets and generates discourse can do anything else that a human can do. Turing's famous test is thus a behavioral definition that ignores what's happening inside a machine, and focuses on what the machine can actually do. Specific tasks like playing a game of chess or even the game of Jeopardy! don't count, because programmers can make a special-purpose machine to "play" those games.

In contrast, as Turing noted, language is domain independent (we can talk about anything), and so all these special purpose techniques inevitably fall short. Doubt it? Just keep talking to the machine, and eventually it'll show that it doesn't understand, and (running the test in reverse) that it therefore doesn't deserve credit as having a mind.

Many people interested in questions about Artificial Intelligence still endorse some version of Turing's iconic test. Toronto computer scientist Hector Levesque, in a shot-across-the-bow paper delivered to an International Joint Conference on Artificial Intelligence (IJCAI) audience in 2013, pointedly challenged the Turing Test, accusing it of being biased towards what he called "bag of tricks" programming approaches.

For instance, when we ask a machine a question it doesn't "know," it can always reply with duplicity or trickery: "I don't know, what do you think?" and so on. Levesque is right; but in the big picture, Turing was too. The Turing Test is hard precisely because understanding a natural language like English or French or Swahili is hard. No wonder AI scientists often resort to a "bag of tricks."

It's telling that no computer has come close to passing the Turing Test, decades after Turing first proposed it, and seemingly eons away after exponential increases in memory and computer power (a smartphone today has more processing power than a supercomputer in the 1950s, easily). Turing was right; language is domain independent (or not topic-constrained) and so is hard for a machine running a program to "get." Language is effectively infinite, programs are finite. This is one quick way of putting the issue that still captures the essence of the problem.

But there's another issue lurking here. Does the machine, even one that might somehow pass the Turing Test, really have a mind? Where do minds come from, after all? The current hype about a looming threat from "superintelligence" reveals something striking about this age-old philosophical question.

A quick review of some old philosophical debates is in order here. When I was in graduate school in the 1990s, it was difficult to walk into a seminar discussing issues in AI or the philosophy of mind without someone mentioning functionalism. Functionalism is the view that mind is like a computer program running on the brain. And, like software generally, the hardware specifics don't matter as much as running the right program.

Hence, mind is software running on "wetware" for humans (the brain), and it might equally be software running on silicon for thinking machines (digital computers). Functionalism thus liberated the philosophy of mind from the species-ism inherent in the view that only human brains could have minds. Given that you have the right program running, it shouldn't matter (says the functionalist) whether it's running on biological or computational hardware.

And so the functionalist view of mind was born, Phoenix-like, out of the ashes of failed behaviorism (cf., Skinner and his rats) and a brief embrace of "identity" theories (cf. J.J.C. Smart and logical positivism) which identified mental states directly with some physical states (the belief that "shortbread is good" just is the firing of such-and-such neurons in my brain right now).

Functionalism made better sense of puzzles about mind than these earlier theories, and with the success of electronic computers, functionalism became the only game in town. The new field of cognitive science, an umbrella discipline including psychology, neuroscience, computer science, and AI among others, quickly fit functionalist theory to the computer metaphor, and that's how we got the Computational Theory of Mind. (It replaced the electric-wire model of brains inspired by telegraphs and telephones, which itself replaced the earlier steam engine view. Before that it was a clock.)

All is good. Only, functionalism as a philosophical theory is pretty much dead today. Savvy former-functionalists such as Harvard philosopher Hillary Putnam became reluctant critics of the once golden theory, as they realized that the basic problems with identity theories of mind inevitably plagued functionalist accounts, too.

The issues here get thorny and thoroughly academic, but the end result of all the philosophical debates in the Eighties and Nineties is that "meaning ain't in the head," or in other words that whatever we're doing when we believe or feel or think, it's not possible to isolate the process and define it locally, i.e., in your head. Language and language users are ultimately understandable only in a "holistic" sense (an unfortunate word because it too is holistic), which is to say, embedded in a large linguistic context which includes facts about the environment, other language users, and so on. So functionalism, at least in its original philosophical sense is dead, now, too. This should have spelled trouble for the Computational Theory of Mind, but surprisingly (or not), it seems hardly to have mattered.

None of this bothered Alan Turing, mind you. Turing's self-proclaimed interest in his 1950 "Computing Machinery and Intelligence" (arguably the most famous AI paper ever, and certainly the first in the modern sense) was to abstract away -- really to ignore -- such issues in the philosophy of mind and to provide a purely behaviorist litmus test for intelligence. He avoided defining intelligence in theoretical terms; he wanted rather to know when something was intelligent, whatever "intelligence" turned out to be in the end.

Turing was, in this sense too, a genius. While puzzles about the nature of mind seemed a perennial coffee table discussion, Turing offered a plausible path forward. But the question of what a "mind" and "intelligence" really are was left open, in 1950 and still today.

Artificial Intelligence research and much of neuroscience now defends reductionist accounts of mind, often using some version of functionalism. And neuroscientists -- even more than AI scientists, they're apt to give short shrift to philosophical debates anyway -- even embrace identity theories or eliminativism: the latter being the view that mind and consciousness and belief are "folk concepts" that actually have no scientifically respectable description, and thus don't exist, and thus should be eliminated from our discourse.

And so it goes. Philosophy rages on in a teacup as often as it effects any change in scientific discourse. But there's another view of mind that's increasingly the rage today, and superintelligence enthusiasts and AI proponents wear it on their sleeve: emergence, or "emergentism."

Emergentist theories of mind are popular for the same reason that magic shows or mystical experiences are: they don't need to be explained. For the emergentist, when we say "such-and-such has a mind" we just mean that "such-and-such became so complicated that a mind sprang forth." Minds emerge from complexity, according to this view. Hence, when a stodgy philosopher complains that we can't get rid of cognitive states like beliefs, because they have non-truth-theoretic consequences in a first-order calculus and (insert more musty complaining here), the New Emergentist -- a Kurzweil, say, or a Nick Bostrom, or Elon Musk or Bill Gates or Stephen Hawking perhaps -- can simply say "Well, yes, but you see those aspects of mind just emerge when an AI program is run fast enough."

Emergentist theories of mind, in other words, fit nicely with the gee-whiz enthusiasm today for fast computing. Headline: "IBM Blue Gene/Q supercomputer cracks mind-body problem."

Sarcasm here is hard to contain, because the emergentist thesis is a fantastically sterile philosophical position. It allows anyone to explain cognitive properties or entities like minds simply by relegating their occurrence to something else that's poorly understood, like complexity. The magic trick is then given a suitably scientific sounding label like "emergence."

Lazy views like this can, and should, be attacked with hard questions. It's reasonable to ask the New Emergentist, for instance, the following. One: How do you know mind emerges? What do we know in the natural world that definitely does emerge? And how could we ever tell if a mind did in fact "emerge"? What are the necessary and sufficient conditions? And two: Is this Dualism, then? What emerges? A property or substance? And how does this square with scientific materialism, anyway?

Let's look at these questions in more detail. In the first case, the issue is epistemic. We may believe that minds pop into existence when certain programs are run on fast hardware, or (even worse) when the totality of routers and servers and computers and laptops linked together into the Internet "run" on planet Earth. The latter is the belief held by folks in something called the global brain or "noosphere" -- the notion that our technology is collectively evolving a mind. In that case, the Ultimate Mind is somehow obsessed with collecting our personal data, uploading and downloading pornography, and selling us products we don't need.

Fine, but then we must ask how we know or have any rational basis to believe this is actually true. By "true," I mean "True." Factual. Most of these folks are also skeptical of and even hostile to historical ideas like religion and the belief in a soul, so the issue is how they maintain a thoroughgoing faith in the emergence of minds from complicated technology.

The second issue is metaphysical. It too is closely linked to the epistemic issues, but in its metaphysical guise it's the question of ontological commitments -- what exists in the Universe? Minds apparently do, though they simply "emerge" into it mysteriously from complex systems. (Here I have to suppress, constantly, an urge to exclaim "Presto!") The ontological issue can be classified as strong, in which case we say that a new substance emerges when a mind does, or weak, in which case we're committed only to the view that some property (possibly epiphenomenal) emerges, but no new substance in the Aristotelian or commonsense sense springs forth.

This all brings us back to Alan Turing. Whatever his faults, Turing wasn't much interested in envisioning a Singularity, or a future eschatology involving smarter-than-human machines with minds. He was interested in the limits of machines -- the question of whether they could think at all.

It is clear particularly from his 1950 paper that he felt somewhat hopeful and even optimistic that Turing machines could be made to exhibit a range of intelligent behaviors, and even to learn, so that they could eventually be made to think like humans. He was aware, too, of the standard philosophical and scientific objections to his view.

A century earlier, Lady Lovelace had articulated the central worry of AI hopefuls everywhere, in what has come to be known as the "Lady Lovelace Objection." Lovelace worked with the once world-famous (and now forgotten) 19th-century scientist Charles Babbage on his Difference Engine, an early progenitor of modern computers that never quite got off the ground, so to speak (it was massive). Lovelace, reflecting on the monstrous Difference Engine, remarked once that a machine could only be made to do what it is programmed to do, and nothing more.

Turing felt the Lovelace Objection deeply, and almost personally, and took pains in his 1950 defense of machine intelligence to refute it. Random elements could be incorporated into programs, mused Turing, and they could be made to learn eventually using randomizing techniques. (Monte Carlo algorithms, used in financial prediction, are based on this idea. As usual, many of Turing's musings proved fruitful, if not in the full sense he may have intended.)

A program might, he continued, "scintillate on its own accord." Later, his former statistician I.J. Good would take Turing's seminal ideas and inaugurate the official beginning of AI as a Grand Vision, of Artificial Intelligence as the faith in the coming of Mind and the emergence of novel beings in the Universe. Good's 1960s speculation is supremely relevant to today's discussion:

Let an ultraintelligent machine be defined as a machine that can far surpass all the intellectual activities of any man however clever. Since the design of machines is one of these intellectual activities, an ultraintelligent machine could design even better machines; there would then unquestionably be an 'intelligence explosion,' and the intelligence of man would be left far behind. Thus the first ultraintelligent machine is the last invention that man need ever make.

Turing, always the scientist, never said such things. But in his hope that computers would come to say and think more than they were programmed to, he sowed the initial seeds of Good's broader vision. Today, Good's thoughts seem more relevant than Turing's. Minds are coming, say the New Emergentists. Functionalism may be dead, but who cares about philosophy when one has a Grand Vision, anyway?

It's hard to combat such a view, perhaps, but it's notable that Turing himself never endorsed it. He never echoed (in writing anyway), the full-blown claims of his statistician Good, and while he no doubt would be elated at the success of modern computation, he might also notice something that superintelligence enthusiasts and bandwagon emergentists have missed.

No computer has passed the Turing Test today. Not even close; not even using the "bag of tricks" that Levesque felt should be eliminated, making the test fairer (but harder even so). It's a cautionary tale and a lesson that seems somehow hopelessly lost today in all the hype. Reading his original paper, and reflecting on who he was as a scientist and a philosopher, it's hard to believe that Turing, were he alive today, would endorse the New Emergentists and their Grand Vision of our future, without some good-old fashioned evidence: passing, first, his test.

That day is very likely a long way off, and so we would all do well to reign in our speculations about imminent superintelligence. Turing, one can only believe, would likely approve.



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KEYWORDS: alanturing; computers; computing; enigma; enigmacode; hutsix
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I personally find homosexual behavior disgusting, but it’s difficult to regard it as a greater sin than suicide, adultery, theft, lying, or other prohibited behaviors. A different class of sin, perhaps, but not a greater sin.


21 posted on 02/18/2015 6:51:44 AM PST by oblomov
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To: PieterCasparzen

It was a shame that he held to a notion that his mind was something on the mere level of one of the machines he created, or that a machine could, in principle, rise to that.

His mind was more. But it was being abused by Satan. As every human, he had the right to claim the universal offer of Christ (I know this isn’t Calvinist and so what, there are biblical references that back it up). But to outward appearance he declined, yet only God knows for sure. IIRC, in a suicide note he mused about the original sin (which is why he did it by consuming poison applied to an apple). Maybe at the very end he came to grips with his need and finally yielded as his mortal life dissolved away. I could not wish less, and neither could God.


22 posted on 02/18/2015 6:53:24 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: oblomov

No sin can be forgiven or reversed without the agency of God. And when Christians carry on as if they can be, as if a “good solid morality” is their summum bonum, they disappoint God.


23 posted on 02/18/2015 6:55:34 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Heartlander

The brits had an idea how enigma worked due to earlier work by the Poles, but the WWII version wasn’t broken until a code book was confiscated from a captured U-boat.


24 posted on 02/18/2015 6:59:02 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: oblomov
What God does with him is God’s decision. He had a right to be left alone by the state.

If the nation is a heathen nation that will be the case.

But in a Christian nation the civil law will be founded upon God's truth. The abominable sin of homosexuality would not be legal any more than theft or murder would be.

What the man did privately the civil magistrate would not know about.

This is how, until relatively recently, American law was fashioned. Sodomy was illegal, so sodomites had to refrain from publicly acknowledging their wicked acts, and keep them a secret. Even if people suspected they were doing such things based on their manner, etc., that is not evidence for a court of law, so nothing was done, nor could be nor should be done, any more than someone could be convicted of theft in a court based on hearsay or suspicions alone.

Since American law is founded on a secular humanist document, the Constition (which is against Christ since it mentions him only in the documents date), our government continued to turn against God and decriminalized homosexuality starting in the 1960's-70's. This paved the way for the morass of immorality in today's society.
25 posted on 02/18/2015 7:07:01 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

OK, but he was arrested, jailed, and forced take medicine to “cure” him. I fail to see how the state acted as an instrument of God’s love.


26 posted on 02/18/2015 7:27:04 AM PST by oblomov
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To: PieterCasparzen

A Christian nation... be careful what you mean there.

The church erred by attempting to take a country under its control. The horror stories that non Christians have about Christians are chiefly based in that error.

Certain overt acts can be banned, e.g. buggery. However, they cannot “force a person to not be gay.” And if this is attempted under the guise of a state church it is especially sad because the power of God has already been made subservient to the state. This is not the free gospel that breaks every chain.


27 posted on 02/18/2015 7:30:41 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: oblomov

It didn’t. They could order him not to engage in buggery but that’s it, God hasn’t endowed them with further authority.


28 posted on 02/18/2015 7:31:26 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
His mind was more. But it was being abused by Satan. As every human, he had the right to claim the universal offer of Christ (I know this isn’t Calvinist and so what, there are biblical references that back it up). But to outward appearance he declined, yet only God knows for sure.

Suicide as the final act is the evidence of an unconverted soul. We may say that hypothetically in the final moments between taking a poison and dying a person might be converted, but we know that this is really grasping at straws. Prior to my conversion, I've been in such a saddened state as to contemplate suicide, and I see now how God preserved me through that time, even before I was converted and still was rejecting Christ without even at the time really understanding that I was. God preserves his children before their conversion to Christ and never abandons them thereafter. The final act being suicide is hardly an act that honors God's Law Word, hardly the death of a true believer which always will glorify God in that it will testify to the fact that God did not abandon the believer in the hour of their death.

If we humor such speculations as the "post-poisoning conversion", think about it, we're a hair's breadth from thinking things like... well, though Mr. X was an unrepentant wicked man his entire life who murdered millions of people and blasphemed God right up to his death, well... perhaps in the last few thousandths of a second between his last blasphemous utterance and his actual loss of consciousness the Holy Spirit drew him to Christ in that tiny fraction of second.

If it were not for the act of suicide though, and his final actions did not reveal rejection of God for certain, then, by all means, we'd have no way to know the state of his soul, only God would know.

Certainly no one can claim that they did not have the opportunity to turn to God. God has provided abundant evidence for the truth of Christ and the Gospel, the Word of God, is spread throughout the world; if we reject Christ we have no one to blame but ourselves.
29 posted on 02/18/2015 7:35:02 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.)
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To: PieterCasparzen
We may say that hypothetically in the final moments between taking a poison and dying a person might be converted, but we know that this is really grasping at straws.

A God who can drive a straw through a tree with a tornado should be respected.

30 posted on 02/18/2015 7:37:16 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

The civil magistrate punishes those who commit the act of theft. Up until a few decades ago, it punished those who committed the act of sodomy.

The American government was then manipulated by the powers that be to decriminalize sodomy.

The reason for this was drawn from autonomous human legal reasoning, not Biblical legal reasoning.

Every nation is either for Christ (Covenants with God) or against him (a heathen, Christ-hating nation).

If we live in a Christ-hating nation, we see civil laws made up by autonomous human reason which will always oppose God and the Bible.

Christ reigns in heaven at the right hand of God, and the nations are subdued throughout history.

Psalm 110:1 “The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.”

Psalm 22:8 “For the kingdom is the Lord’s: and he is the governor among the nations.”

Psalm 67:4 “O let the nations be glad and sing for joy: for thou shalt judge the people righteously, and govern the nations upon earth. Selah.”


31 posted on 02/18/2015 7:46:16 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.)
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To: oblomov

Turing was a victim of ‘scientifically’ direct human evolution, aka Eugenics. Progressives argued that homosexuals and the mentally retarded should be prevented from reproducing due to their genetic inferiority.


32 posted on 02/18/2015 7:49:42 AM PST by Heartlander (Prediction: Increasingly, logic will be seen as a covert form of theism. - Denyse OÂ’Leary)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Yes, but children of God respect God’s Word and take it for what it is, not replace it with our worldly human hopes and desires.

I may want to believe in fairies and unicorns, but I must restrict my beliefs to the reality of the Bible, God’s Law Word.

If the Bible says murder is a sin, and the Bible says unrepentent sinners are bound for a lake of fire, then I will not attempt to split hairs and get around those words, because I wish that some sodomite mathematician is in heaven typing on his computer glorying in his perversions.

1 Corinthians 6:9 “Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,”

Ultimately God only knows, so I prefer to not waste my time speculating as to the eternal destination of souls of men of dubious character; I instead simply place my trust in the truth of Scripture and let it be my rule and guide in life.

America and every nation, however, would do well to bow the knee to Christ and Covenant with God; base their civil law on the perfectly righteous and just moral Law of God, and start using due legal process to prosecute criminals.

Matthew 6:10 “Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.”


33 posted on 02/18/2015 7:58:27 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.)
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To: Heartlander
I understand that most materialists are uncomfortable with emergentist theories.

Emergence is also postulated at much lower levels, e.g. that certain chemical phenomena cannot, and will never, be explained by physics.

Emergent Properties

34 posted on 02/18/2015 8:26:00 AM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: PieterCasparzen

The word is unrepentant... repentant doesn’t mean the capability of reversing the sinful act.

I think you are indulging in self glorifying question begging here. I am not going to pontificate whether he is or isn’t, but I am going to remark that you have closed the question.


35 posted on 02/18/2015 10:18:15 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: TexasKamaAina; Vermont Lt

I think you’re right.

A boorish attempt at levity.

I’ll try to do better in the future.


36 posted on 02/18/2015 10:18:35 AM PST by onedoug
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To: onedoug

We all make mistakes....certainly I do.


37 posted on 02/18/2015 11:03:14 AM PST by Vermont Lt (When you are inclined to to buy storage boxes, but contractor bags instead.)
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To: SpaceBar
The brits had an idea how enigma worked due to earlier work by the Poles, but the WWII version wasn’t broken until a code book was confiscated from a captured U-boat.
The Naval enigma machine had more complexity to it than did the Army enigma machine on which the Poles worked at the start of WWII. The Germans also developed a different code for super-secret transmissions. However, the capabilities of Bletchley were better suited to cracking that problem - and the Brits were decoding those messages faster than the “simpler” ones.

38 posted on 02/18/2015 12:01:28 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion ('Liberalism' is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: Heartlander

It’s quite possible that the first super intelligence will be a human that is augmented by the power of the computer.

A computer is an amplifier for the human mind...and always has been.

Humans are unbelievably smart...but very slow. Computers are unbelievably stupid but very fast. Combine the two and get a human intellect pushed to warp-speed.

I have serious doubts about artificial machine intelligence... but I have no doubt that someday the combination of man and computer will result in super intelligence...just my opinion.


39 posted on 02/18/2015 11:35:18 PM PST by Bobalu (If we live to see 2017 we will be kissing the ground)
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