[Heartlander]

Regardless of abiogenesis, we know DNA has the following:

1. Functional Information
2. Encoder
3. Error Correction
4. Decoder

How could such a system form randomly without any intelligence, and totally unguided?

What would come first - the encoder, error correction, or the decoder? How and where did the functional information originate?

Furthermore, DNA contains multi-layered information that reads both forward and backwards - DNA stores data more efficiently than anything we've created - and a majority of DNA contains metainformation (information about how to use the information in the context of the related data). The design inference is obvious.

[21twelve]

There was a thread on FR a year or so ago about the discovery of another layer, flipped side, - something that was just discovered - which doubled the amount of information the DNA code actually holds.

Found it:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3101450/posts

[ifinnegan]

Nice post. Informed and well presented.

I think in the materialist paradigm the functional information would come first.

The functional information in this view is inherent in the structure.

I believe that the encoder and decoder functions would not be considered as separate and would come third, with the encoder being second, but second not with an encoding function, but with self propagating function.

And in this we are talking about RNA, not DNA.

Your comments about DNA are true and it is amazing. It is even more so with RNA, which is very important in cell function.

Adherents of evolutionism really don’t seem to appreciate the complexity and what I’ll call majesty that life presents.

[BroJoeK]

Heartlander: "The design inference is obvious."

The design inference of the natural Universe is obvious, and Genesis tells us six times our Creator declared the Universe "good", which must mean perfectly according to His intentions.

Did those Intentions include molecules which replicate and complexity over time, as it seems?
Or, did an imperfect creation necessitate its Creator to intervene, forcing molecules to do what they weren't Intelligently Designed to do naturally?

I prefer to think (because that's what Genesis implies) the natural Universe was created perfectly to produce what we see today -- "pregnant with life", the Creator's handiwork all around us, no real "random chance" to it...

Intelligent evolution as intended by God.