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To: ifinnegan

There appears to be no testable explanation as to how abiotic chemicals “evolved” into molecules, rather than the expression of a belief that such an event must have occurred.


65 posted on 01/20/2015 12:59:17 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: Mr. Lucky

There are plausible hypotheses.


67 posted on 01/20/2015 1:05:45 PM PST by ifinnegan
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To: Mr. Lucky; ifinnegan
Regardless of abiogenesis, we know DNA has the following:

1. Functional Information
2. Encoder
3. Error Correction
4. Decoder
How could such a system form randomly without any intelligence, and totally unguided?

What would come first - the encoder, error correction, or the decoder? How and where did the functional information originate?

Furthermore, DNA contains multi-layered information that reads both forward and backwards - DNA stores data more efficiently than anything we've created - and a majority of DNA contains metainformation (information about how to use the information in the context of the related data). The design inference is obvious.

68 posted on 01/20/2015 1:09:16 PM PST by Heartlander (Prediction: Increasingly, logic will be seen as a covert form of theism. - Denyse OÂ’Leary)
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To: Mr. Lucky

“There appears to be no testable explanation as to how abiotic chemicals “evolved” into molecules, rather than the expression of a belief that such an event must have occurred”

An oldie but goodie ...

The classic experiments of Miller (1953) showed that impressive yields of certain amino acids can be obtained when a mixture of gases (hydrogen, methane, ammonia and water vapor) is exposed to an electrical discharge. This discovery represented a major breakthrough, since amino acids are the monomers that compose all proteins. The mixture was assumed to be a simulation of the original terrestrial atmosphere which, by analogy with the outer planets, would have contained hydrogen, methane, ammonia and water vapor. At sufficiently high energy fluxes, such reducing systems of gases generate hydrogen cyanide (HCN) and formaldehyde (HCHO), which in turn react to produce amino acids. Cyanide and formaldehyde are now considered to be key reactants in simulations of prebiotic chemical pathways (Ferris and Hagan, 1984).


178 posted on 01/23/2015 12:27:57 PM PST by TexasGator
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