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Illinois Introduces Automatic Retirement Savings Program, a First for the Nation
ny times ^ | 1-5-2015 | JOSH BARRO

Posted on 01/05/2015 9:37:59 PM PST by Citizen Zed

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To: Sacajaweau
It’s a voluntary program..........

For now.

Progression of seat belt laws:

1. A secondary offense if pulled over for something else, and a young child was not seat belted.

2. A primary offense. You can be stopped and ticketed for a young child not seat belted.

3. A secondary offense if pulled over for something else, and anyone is not seat belted.

4. A primary offense. You can be stopped and ticket for anyone in the car not wearing a seat belt.

Nanny (read:statist) government is very good at incrementalism. It will be mandatory soon after implementation. Then, the government will take over management of all retirement accounts.

For your own good.

21 posted on 01/05/2015 11:42:44 PM PST by Washi
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To: Nervous Tick

The IL regime will siphon off the interest that will accumulate from the savings accounts to keep for their own, to use for gov’t projects. The gov’t will get the interest, not the persons who join the new retirement accounts.


22 posted on 01/05/2015 11:44:15 PM PST by flaglady47 (The useful idiots always go first)
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To: Citizen Zed

Sounds like “Social Security.”


23 posted on 01/06/2015 12:24:06 AM PST by kaehurowing
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To: Citizen Zed

Are they going to invest it in something ‘safe’ like municipal bonds?


24 posted on 01/06/2015 1:06:42 AM PST by PAR35
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To: Citizen Zed

All to be forfeited once you have your death panel review upon “retirement.”


25 posted on 01/06/2015 2:10:02 AM PST by informavoracious (Open your eyes, people!)
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To: Citizen Zed

Sounds like MYRA

Investing in the ObamaFund; Treasury rolls out a new savings plan without a Congressional vote.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3241943/posts

Obama step closer to seizing retirement accounts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3122884/posts


26 posted on 01/06/2015 2:31:30 AM PST by Whenifhow
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To: Sacajaweau

Yeah. But it’s “ opt out”. That means a lot of idiots will pay in because they are too stupid or can’t be bothered to opt out.


27 posted on 01/06/2015 2:35:55 AM PST by Kozak ("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger)
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To: Citizen Zed
"The program will be created under a law signed by Gov. Pat Quinn on Sunday. Participation will be voluntary, but workers who don’t want to save will need to opt out manually. "

Ya and I am sure it will be as easy as getting out of paying the political portion of your Union Dues...

What a co-wink-a-dink, aren't Illinois State Pension Liabilities as bad off if not worse than California's?

28 posted on 01/06/2015 2:47:27 AM PST by taildragger (Not my Circus, Not my Monkey ( Boy does that apply to DC...))
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To: lentulusgracchus

Yep. Anyone who signs up for this is clinically insane.


29 posted on 01/06/2015 2:59:50 AM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Sacajaweau

I don’t really call something you are automatically enrolled in and have to “manually” opt out of ‘voluntary’.

This is like the Columbia Record club if you ask me.


30 posted on 01/06/2015 3:15:20 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Citizen Zed

If the government can’t spend it directly, they’ll borrow against it or figure out some other way to get at it. Your retirement money is safer with a heroin addict.


31 posted on 01/06/2015 3:30:39 AM PST by ArcadeQuarters ("Immigration Reform" is ballot stuffing)
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To: Citizen Zed

At least they offer an opt-out. I’m surprised they didn’t make it impossible to say “no”.


32 posted on 01/06/2015 4:20:18 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: taildragger
What a co-wink-a-dink, aren't Illinois State Pension Liabilities as bad off if not worse than California's?

Funds are supposed to managed by a private investment firm and the state won't have access to them. Details at this point are a little sketchy on what type of funds will be offered. It doesn't go online until 2017. It is suppose to be a Roth 401K style account, which means taxes are paid going in. The state is broke. It wouldn't benefit them to do a regular tax deferred 401K even though it could be beneficial to some people.

33 posted on 01/06/2015 8:04:28 AM PST by EVO X
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To: Citizen Zed

I’m sure this’ll be OK.

Didn’t the Republicans try to do this with social security and the Dems called it cuts?


34 posted on 01/06/2015 8:05:44 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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