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To: dragnet2
Relax, this is not about me. I'm not part of the hacker community and certainly not involved at the professional level in compromising systems/networks biz. I'm an innocent spectator. I'm simply telling you the basic facts of life. Nothing is secure. Learn it.

I am quite relaxed, dragnet2. I am amused at your ignorant attitude. I challenged you because I was certain of my educated position and knew that you did not have any evidence to back up your position. None, nada, nothing, except your unsupported, irrational fear and paranoia about using something that is actually safer than keeping your data on your own computer and devices. . . where the authorities KNOW they can find it and can get at it easily by the simple means of taking it from you, either legally or not.

So, now, in other words, you, a dilettante, an amateur, is telling someone who has worked with computers and computer security for 30 YEARS, that YOU KNOW BETTER than he does his line of work. . .

Do you know how arrogant you are? "LEARN IT," you say?

I'm trying to educate YOU, dragnet2, and anyone on this thread who may still be reading this thread who holds to the myths that there are such all powerful hackers out there who can break this type of storage encryption that YOU seem to think they can! They cannot. I have been trying to show you and them that that ability is mathematically beyond us and the capability of any theory we know.

The point is that just because you repeatedly assert "Nothing is secure" does NOT make it true. Your ignorance is curable by the willingness to learn. . . but stubborn ignorance boarders on stupidity, dragnet2. Stupidity is not curable.

Your computer at your house, your devices sitting in your bedroom are far LESS secure than the data you place in the care of Apple with iCloud.

I told you there are degrees of security, and demonstrated why the data security in place with Apple devices and iCloud is state of the art. . . and you have the unmitigated gall to tell me that you have been smugly arguing with me, who knows what I am talking about and has shown you that I do, from your position of complete ignorance of your position. . . and you remain proud of it. . . and then tell ME to LEARN what you really don't know, to essentially become as ignorant as you????

No, sir, it is NOT going to happen. Enjoy your arrogant ignorance. I am not going to join you in your ignorance or to hunker down in your fear filled bunker.

40 posted on 01/04/2015 11:28:17 AM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: Swordmaker

You seem to have an inordinate amount of support and cheer for the Apple Corp. Very inquisitive.

In any event, as I’ve told you repeatedly now, you’re free to use your electronic devices...and devises the way you see fit. I could care less.

And once again, this is not about me.

I’m not part of the hacker community and certainly not involved at the professional level in compromising systems/networks biz. I’m an innocent spectator.

I’m simply telling you the basic facts of life. Nothing is secure.

If you don’t believe this, I certainly can’t help ya.


41 posted on 01/04/2015 12:28:30 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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