Posted on 01/01/2015 4:47:26 AM PST by Enlightened1
America is overcrowded now, we had a much more pleasant lifestyle when our population was about 200 million in 1970, instead of the 320 million of today.
We aren’t lab rats, and we don’t really care to exist in a state where scientists can keep us all alive with enough food and water, and living in boxes stacked up on each other, and plenty of electronics inside of our boxes to keep us distracted during our youth and work years and retirement.
Quality of life matters, in 1970 we could live in the nations’ big cities, and still do some fishing and hunting and camping within minutes of home, traveling was a joy, and we had community, and communities, and individualism all at the same time, we had room to breathe and to live.
Even INSIDE of the big cities we could play in the woods, and find outdoor things to do and outdoors creatures, even in the cities there were vacant lots and patches of woods and little used parks.
We want to live, not exist.
You seem to believe in “evolving free market models” based on global population growth. You also commented how fewer people in developed nations relative to poor nations is a good thing.
I have officially called you out.
If our population gets lower our power and our security gets weaker. Please read about Julian Simon. If you can’t fish anymore where you live then move. Things change.
But everyone in the world could live in a house in Texas or stand in Jacksonville, FL. The population figures are a few years out of date, but it works.
Texas has 261,797 square miles of land area
1 square mile = 27,878,400 square feet
So Texas has 7,298,481,484,800 square feet of land area
The world population is 7,125,000,000 / 4 = 1,781,250,000 households of 4 people each
Dividing the 7,298,481,484,800 square feet of land area in Texas by 3000 (3000 sqft. lots)
Giving us 2,432,827,161 1500 sqft homes on 3000 sqft lots,
Subtracting the 1,676,748,288 households from the 2,432,827,161 1500 sqft homes leaves us with
756,078,873 houses still empty.
Also, everyone in the world could stand in the city of Jacksonville, FL
Jacksonville, FL
767 square miles
21,382,732,800 square feet
1.8 square feet for each of 6,706,993,152 people
Shoulder to shoulder, but they’d all fit.
Nonsense, it is just the opposite, our power and security is disappearing, as we become a mob of strangers.
If you want to be more crowded, then move to Brooklyn, quit destroying America, and moving the world into our communities.
You have called me out? For what? For wanting us to acknowledge that free markets don’t actually require ever-growing populations? Or, for wanting more people in this world to live in health and comfort, rather than poverty and disease?
Yeah, that’s some calling out.
...yet poverty and disease have gone down, on a percentage basis, as the global population has climbed. If you understood economies of scale you would know why.
Quit killing my country.
No, it doesn’t take the economy of seven billion people to reduce poverty and disease. Nice try, however.
Staggering numbers. Ugh.
Theoretically, you could have a scenario where the population of the Earth had dropped (through natural attrition) to, say, only two people: Each one selling (and buying) goods and services, worth hundreds of trillions of dollars, to/from the other.
Those two people could be owners of vast automated factories, producing lots of consumer goods (adamantine palaces, platinum cadillacs) and robotic services for their respective consumptions, and that "something" they exchange could be, e.g., deeds to their giant playgrounds in Australia, Antarctica, or on the Moon.
Or, those two (perhaps even supremely happy) people might not only live lives of pure leisure, enjoying their wealth, but actually even be producing virtual goods (e.g., intellectual properties).
In purely economic terms, the world GDP would have risen (though in human terms, the world would be a much poorer place - an interesting philosophical question).
In short, the population doesn't have to rise for companies to be profitable and grow, and for the economy to flourish - rather, it is sufficient that consumption grows.
Regards,
Oh yes without a doubt LOL!
Although if the Authoritarian Internationalist Control Freaks want to really control population, then they need to do the following.....
When a nation becomes free, prosperous and raises their standard of living overtime (air conditioning, cars, everyone owns a home, etc..) their population growth actually slows down in future generations. Therefore, if you want to slow a population growth of a nation, then simply raise that country’s standard of living.
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I am assigning each person a little less than one-fifth of an acre or about 8,000 square feet, roughly the population density of Houston. It is the number 4 city in America in population terms, but it also covers roughly 600 square miles.
The point, of course, is that even with a fifth acre per person, the entire population of the world would fit in about 2% of its land area.
Most conservatives agree with me - not you. Take a look at America Alone by Mark Steyn as one example.
I would like to speak to them in private, when all public figures don’t have to play the game of “we aren’t talking about legal immigration, only illegal”.
Immigration is killing us, and there is no end on the horizon, 500 million, a billion 2 billion.
If you were a conservative, then you would quit importing democrat voters.
Why destroy America? why would any nation destroy itself and it’s national identity, and culture, and even religion, and language, and in your case, your own supposed politics?
Those tend to be people who would neglect any children they have in any case.
Immigration is important. I like legal immigration, but I would like illegals to be deported.
But the real discussion, for me, is the US birthrate. American citizens need to have more babies. America is much better than Europe with respect to this, but it is still not enough.
Demographics is a game of last man standing. If the last societal group to drop its birthrate is the Muslims we will be paying the price for that for centuries.
The real issue is immigration, and legal or illegal are little different, except that it will be longer before the illegals become voters, that is what destroyed us, it killed America, and we already live in a country that is not the Untied States, and in 20 more years, it will be barely remembered.
Secession and conflict are in the future for America as diverse peoples with nothing in common, find that they cannot live with each other, and that what made America great originally, only serves as a weapon against it’s traditional population, for instance, the vote.
“Lysistrata”. One of my favorites in college lit. classes, along with Moliere’s “le Misanthrope”. There’s a modern translation out there of “Lysistrata” that is an absolute scream to read.
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