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Queensland police monitoring IS extremists now living here
The Courier Mail ^ | 10/27/2014 | NEIL DOORLEY

Posted on 12/26/2014 8:46:03 PM PST by Beave Meister

FIGHTERS from the bloody conflicts in Syria and Iraq are living in Queensland but Police Commissioner Ian Stewart said they were being “closely monitored’’ as part of the state’s terror watch.

The “skill sets” and “potential” for “those within the community to commit terror” was a great source of concern, Mr Stewart said.

“We are on the highest state of alert for terrorism in this country that we have ever been since World War II and that means we have all got to be very aware – we don’t have to be afraid – that there is a potential for those within the community to commit terror, a criminal act and I don’t think we can drop our guard for one second,” he said.

While Mr Stewart confirmed a “number” of Queenslanders were on the anti-terrorism radar, he stopped short of revealing the exact figure.

(Excerpt) Read more at couriermail.com.au ...


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KEYWORDS: aussies; australia; extremists; isis; islam; muslims; muslums; outback; police; queensland; religionofpeace; terrorism; terrorist
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Who let them back in the country in the first place?
1 posted on 12/26/2014 8:46:04 PM PST by Beave Meister
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To: Beave Meister

Monitor hell, kick their butts out. Send them back to the hell hole they came from.


2 posted on 12/26/2014 8:47:50 PM PST by doc1019
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To: Beave Meister

There were some refugees that came there a long time ago.


3 posted on 12/26/2014 8:48:12 PM PST by Kackikat ('If it talks like a traitor, acts like a traitor, then by God it's a traitor.')
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To: Beave Meister

Confucius say man who watch spider close get bit in eye.


4 posted on 12/26/2014 8:55:46 PM PST by bunkerhill7 (re (`("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")))
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To: Beave Meister

Well, let’s hope they don’t read the Courier Mail or they might find out.


5 posted on 12/26/2014 9:18:11 PM PST by Michael.SF. (It takes a gun to feed a village (and an AK 47 to defend it).)
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To: Beave Meister

Is 2015 to be the year of ISIS? It certainly looks like it just now. Their influence is soaring in Europe, Australia and America. Look for them to increasingly exploit the Ferguson protests.


6 posted on 12/26/2014 9:27:17 PM PST by JimSEA
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To: Beave Meister
Who let them back in the country in the first place?

Let them back in the country? Why weren't they arrested as soon as they came back?

7 posted on 12/27/2014 2:46:46 AM PST by Mark17 (So gracious and tender was He. I claimed Him that day as my savior, this stranger of Galilee)
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To: melsec

Ping


8 posted on 12/27/2014 3:11:26 AM PST by Mark17 (So gracious and tender was He. I claimed Him that day as my savior, this stranger of Galilee)
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To: Beave Meister; Fred Nerks; naturalman1975
A few years back I explored the possibility of getting permission to settle in Australia.Not year round...not with the intent of abandoning the US...just because I love the country and hate winter (I'd only be there in their Spring/Summer).I found out that I didn't qualify under their "points system".That system places great weight on age (the younger the better),education and skills (skills in demand) as well as command of English,good health,no criminal record.

Me= old (joined the Army late 60's),hospital administrator (a skill not in short supply there),less than perfect health (heart).

I have no problem with their system whatsoever...it's best suited for *their* best interests which is how a civilized nation's immigration policies *should* be crafted.

And yet these moslems get in.Must be political correctness...Down Under Style.

9 posted on 12/27/2014 7:45:58 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Jimmy Carter;No Longer The Worst President In My Lifetime)
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To: Gay State Conservative
...And yet these moslems get in.Must be political correctness...Down Under Style.

I can't say I know much about it, but I think there's a huge difference between immigration and REFUGEES. The first is under the control of the nation's government, the second appears to be what you get for belonging to The United Nations. It's got to be the UN that tells us (and you) how many 'refugees' you MUST accept annually. And it's not acceptable to profile according to religion. Thus, the majority of 'refugees' are muslims, running away from the hell holes created by the cult of islam.

I welcome any corrections if I am wrong.

10 posted on 12/27/2014 1:35:50 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: Gay State Conservative; Fred Nerks

Yes, as Fred says, it’s a very different experience for those who classified as refugees. All the other rules go out the window. And our High Court has made some decisions which limit the ability of the elected government to exclude people (the reason Australia now attempts to process as many as possible off shore is because the High Court decided that once they reach Australian territory they have rights that make it very difficult to not allow them to stay even if they are believed to be dangerous, if they are also simultaneously judged to be genuine refugees).


11 posted on 12/27/2014 2:52:58 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: Gay State Conservative; Fred Nerks

And once they come here as refugees, if they then become citizens over time (which has been common), once they are citizens, we can’t really stop them coming back to Australia (the High Court wouldn’t let us) whatever they’ve done overseas. And some of them are second generation, so they have been citizens from birth.

To try and deal with the issue of refugees becoming citizens, we used to have Temporary Protection Visas (TPVs) for some refugees. The ones who had a genuine claim of being at risk, but where it was likely that risk was not forever (ie, because the problem in their home country was one that might be resolved). They’d be allowed to stay while they were in danger, but would not be anchored here forever. The current government would like to reintroduce them - but the Senate won’t let it happen on a long term basis, and the High Court might have issues too.


12 posted on 12/27/2014 2:57:58 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

And the High Court bases its judgements on what is our obligation as a member of the United Nations, is that right?

The most common comment I hear and read is ‘why aren’t ‘they’ deported’? I generally reply with...’to where would you suggest we deport an Australian citizen?’

We give citizenship too lightly imo. When my family arrived from post-war Europe, we had to wait five years before we could apply to become naturalized. We considered it a privilege, not a right.


13 posted on 12/27/2014 3:17:34 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: Fred Nerks
And the High Court bases its judgements on what is our obligation as a member of the United Nations, is that right?

Yes, under Section 75 of the Constitution, the High Court has the power to make decisions based on international treaties we've signed. They've decided that they can do this no matter what Acts of Parliament decide and as there's no appeal of their decisions, they can overrule Parliament.

14 posted on 12/27/2014 3:23:42 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975; Fred Nerks
Please be aware that my post wasn't at all meant as criticism of your country.I should have guessed that at least some of the individuals in question might have been “refugees” rather than “immigrants”.I know that most countries place more trust in UN mandates than does the US,so it stands to reason that there’d be a fair number of refugees,and their succeeding generations,in Oz.
15 posted on 12/27/2014 3:24:52 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Jimmy Carter;No Longer The Worst President In My Lifetime)
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To: Gay State Conservative
...I know that most countries place more trust in UN mandates than does the US...

I've always been under the impression that once you belong, you're stuck with their rulings. It sounds like you are saying that the US is only a little bit pregnant.

16 posted on 12/27/2014 3:41:05 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: Fred Nerks
I've always been under the impression that once you belong, you're stuck with their rulings. It sounds like you are saying that the US is only a little bit pregnant.

I'm certainly no expert in such matters but there's one thing I can assure you of...the United Nations is far,far less popular,and less far respected,in the United States than in most countries.If you think about it you can,I'll bet,understand why.After all,at the UN General Assembly is there a single typhoon,a single war,a single famine,a single disease outbreak,a single corrupt leader that *isn't* our fault?

17 posted on 12/27/2014 3:54:21 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Jimmy Carter;No Longer The Worst President In My Lifetime)
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To: Gay State Conservative

As of June 2014, the International Organization for Migration has 156 member states and 10 observer states.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Organization_for_Migration

From its roots as an operational logistics agency, it has broadened its scope to become the leading international agency working with governments and civil society to advance the understanding of migration issues, encourage social and economic development through migration, and uphold the human dignity and well-being of migrants.

The broader scope of activities has been matched by rapid expansion from a relatively small agency into one with an annual operating budget of $1.3 billion and some 8,400 staff working in over 100 countries worldwide.

Refugee Resettlement

For more than 60 years, IOM has helped refugees to begin new lives with dignity and respect. As part of its global contribution to migration management, IOM fosters refugee integration through comprehensive resettlement services. Article 1 of the IOM Constitution mandates the Organization to “… concern itself with the organized transfer of refugees, displaced persons and other individuals in need of international migration services for whom arrangements may be made between the Organization and the States concerned, including those States undertaking to receive them.” Upon the request of governments, IOM provides the following resettlement services: Case Processing; Health Assessments and Travel Health Assistance; Pre-Departure Orientation/Integration; Movement/Travel Operations.[13]

Member States[edit]

As of June 2014, the International Organization for Migration has 156 member states and 10 observer states. SEE LIST.

Both Australia and the United States are listed as members.


18 posted on 12/27/2014 4:21:46 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: Gay State Conservative

UNHCR was established on 14 December 1950[4] and succeeded the earlier United Nations Relief and Rehabilitation Administration. The agency is mandated to lead and co-ordinate international action to protect refugees and resolve refugee problems worldwide. Its primary purpose is to safeguard the rights and well-being of refugees. It strives to ensure that everyone can exercise the right to seek asylum and find safe refuge in another state, with the option to return home voluntarily, integrate locally or to resettle in a third country.

UNHCR’s mandate has gradually been expanded to include protecting and providing humanitarian assistance to whom it describes as other persons “of concern,” including internally displaced persons (IDPs) who would fit the legal definition of a refugee under the 1951 United Nations Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees and 1967 Protocol, the 1969 Organization for African Unity Convention, or some other treaty if they left their country, but who presently remain in their country of origin. UNHCR presently has major missions in Lebanon, South Sudan, Chad/Darfur, Democratic Republic of Congo, Iraq, Afghanistan as well as Kenya to assist and provide services to IDPs and refugees.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_High_Commissioner_for_Refugees


19 posted on 12/27/2014 4:36:54 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: Fred Nerks

STATUS AS AT : 27-12-2014 06:45:25 EDT

CHAPTER V

REFUGEES AND STATELESS PERSONS

5 . Protocol relating to the Status of Refugees

New York, 31 January 1967

United States of America

With the following reservations in respect of the application, in accordance with article I of the Protocol, of the Convention relating to the Status of Refugees, done at New York on 28 July 1951:
“The United States of America construes Article 29 of the Convention as applying only to refugees who are resident in the United States and reserves the right to tax refugees who are not residents of the United States in accordance with its general rules relating to non-resident aliens.
The United States of America accepts the obligation of paragraph 1 (b) of Article 24 of the Convention except insofar as that paragraph may conflict in certain instances with any provisions of title II (old age, survivors’ and disability insurance) or title XVIII (hospital and medical insurance for the aged) of the Social Security Act. As to any such provision, the United States will accord to refugees lawfully staying in its territory treatment no less favorable than is accorded aliens generally in the same circumstances.”

https://treaties.un.org/Pages/ViewDetails.aspx?src=TREATY&mtdsg_no=V-5&chapter=5&lang=en#EndDec


20 posted on 12/27/2014 4:48:48 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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