[Gay State Conservative]

A few years back I explored the possibility of getting permission to settle in Australia.Not year round...not with the intent of abandoning the US...just because I love the country and hate winter (I'd only be there in their Spring/Summer).I found out that I didn't qualify under their "points system".That system places great weight on age (the younger the better),education and skills (skills in demand) as well as command of English,good health,no criminal record.

Me= old (joined the Army late 60's),hospital administrator (a skill not in short supply there),less than perfect health (heart).

I have no problem with their system whatsoever...it's best suited for *their* best interests which is how a civilized nation's immigration policies *should* be crafted.

And yet these moslems get in.Must be political correctness...Down Under Style.

[Fred Nerks]

...And yet these moslems get in.Must be political correctness...Down Under Style.

I can't say I know much about it, but I think there's a huge difference between immigration and REFUGEES. The first is under the control of the nation's government, the second appears to be what you get for belonging to The United Nations. It's got to be the UN that tells us (and you) how many 'refugees' you MUST accept annually. And it's not acceptable to profile according to religion. Thus, the majority of 'refugees' are muslims, running away from the hell holes created by the cult of islam.

I welcome any corrections if I am wrong.

[naturalman1975]

Yes, as Fred says, it’s a very different experience for those who classified as refugees. All the other rules go out the window. And our High Court has made some decisions which limit the ability of the elected government to exclude people (the reason Australia now attempts to process as many as possible off shore is because the High Court decided that once they reach Australian territory they have rights that make it very difficult to not allow them to stay even if they are believed to be dangerous, if they are also simultaneously judged to be genuine refugees).

[naturalman1975]

And once they come here as refugees, if they then become citizens over time (which has been common), once they are citizens, we can’t really stop them coming back to Australia (the High Court wouldn’t let us) whatever they’ve done overseas. And some of them are second generation, so they have been citizens from birth.

To try and deal with the issue of refugees becoming citizens, we used to have Temporary Protection Visas (TPVs) for some refugees. The ones who had a genuine claim of being at risk, but where it was likely that risk was not forever (ie, because the problem in their home country was one that might be resolved). They’d be allowed to stay while they were in danger, but would not be anchored here forever. The current government would like to reintroduce them - but the Senate won’t let it happen on a long term basis, and the High Court might have issues too.