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If Mary was "raped" then why does the Luke account have this statement from Mary:

And Mary said: Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it done to me according to thy word." (Douay-Rheims translation)

Maybe I should of taken "Blank" Studies classes and therefore I am ignorant but that statement seems to me Mary is consenting to God's plan. Have to bless places for Salon so all these "Blank" Studies majors can earn a pay check outside of Starbuck's.

1 posted on 12/22/2014 12:01:18 PM PST by C19fan
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Vile stuff. I refuse to collect the Salon link, but it wouldn’t surprise me if they overlooked Ol’ Mo’s predilection for little girls...


2 posted on 12/22/2014 12:03:15 PM PST by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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Repost of an AlterNet article to boot. Salon knows no bottom but has to plumb even fouler depths.


5 posted on 12/22/2014 12:09:57 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: NYer; Salvation

Ah, the loving of the season from Salon (aka slander) .com


8 posted on 12/22/2014 12:17:52 PM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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9 posted on 12/22/2014 12:18:50 PM PST by Michael.SF. (It takes a gun to feed a village (and an AK 47 to defend it).)
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She’s a real sweetheart, until you mess with what makes her unique.

She still loves you, but legions of powerful incoporial intelligences, the least of whom could destroy the world with a thought, await her merest expression of pleasure—or dis-.


11 posted on 12/22/2014 12:21:51 PM PST by CharlesOConnell (CharlesOConnell)
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Christian leaders who teach that ...a woman who fails to service her husband whenever he desires is failing to serve God.

Well, that is in the Bible. Though it is impeccably non-discriminatory since it assigns the husband the same responsibility to service his wife.

Don't want that responsibility? That's fine. Just don't get married.

16 posted on 12/22/2014 4:37:01 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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In some accounts Alexander the Great (is) sowed by a god in the form of serpents...Phoebus...Nope. Ammon, which is to say Zeus. Alex wouldn't settle for any god as his father except the King of the Gods.
17 posted on 12/22/2014 4:38:57 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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I’m no biblical scholar, but I do not believe Mary was asked in advance, giving God permission before she was impregnated. That she happily consented once informed of the situation is in keeping with this article.


18 posted on 12/22/2014 5:20:00 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: C19fan; metmom; boatbums; caww; presently no screen name; redleghunter; Springfield Reformer; ...

The atheists asserts,

” None of them has freely given female consent as a part of the narrative. (Luke’s Mary assents after being not asked but told by a powerful supernatural being what is going to happen to her, “Behold the bond slave of the Lord: be it done to me . . .”) Who needs consent, freely given? If he’s a god, she’s got to want it, right? That is how the stories play out.”

My response would be that of below, but which i cannot post due to inability to sign in, even by Google, or change or pword Ii had before, and surmise i am being blocked):

A typical idiotic militant atheistic/skeptical (the author obviously is in the light of the darkness other articles by her) take on Scripture, which per usual displays ignorance of context, culture and excludes whatever objective consideration that would militate against the desired conclusion of such an author with a manifest animosity toward faith and the God of the Bible.

In context event begin with the angel declaring that she was highly favoured, as the Lord was with her, and that she was blessed art thou among women. (Luke 1:28) Understand that this was not Miley Cyrus, but from all accounts a pious devout young women, who like other Hebrew women, considered giving birth to be The Blessing this side of eternity.

Yet Mary is not only told that she will give birth but that the One she will gift birth to will be known as the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end. (Luke 1:32,33)

And being told this, and that this miracle man will be by a miracle birth, Mary’s response is not only consent, but abounding joy as seen by her glorious Magnificant.

And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord, And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour. For he hath regarded the low estate of his handmaiden: for, behold, from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed. (Luke 1:46-48)

Does Valerie really see Mary as some victim of a cosmic rapist, when in context she unmistakably and beatifically only affirms that she certainly consented to this as something most desirous, and as most wonderful, which God knew she would.

Why can’t/won’t Valerie’s simply admit that her bias (or income) prevents she from seeing what is obvious, and instead drives her to make desperate inane assertion?

And i am an evangelical, not a Cath. who makes the Mary of Scripture into an almost almighty demigoddess.

May God grant Valerie repentance unto life.


19 posted on 12/23/2014 4:43:42 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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I like how liberals think Jesus and Mary are fictional characters, and yet they have information about them not found in the Bible. “Jesus was gay! Mary was raped!” Maybe it’s in the super secret King Brock Bible only passed out to social workers and organizers.


20 posted on 12/23/2014 4:48:18 PM PST by Rastus
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More war on Christ propaganda. The ironic part is the ignorance of the writer. Mary was not raped. Mary had free will to receive or reject her blessing.

Going deeper into what occurred Christ was created within her in human form but Christ existed in Spirit before the foundations of the earth were formed. The wisest of the wise can not understand fully the hows of Christ birth anymore than we can grasp how GOD created the heavens and the earth. But rather we accept it in faith as being such.

I'm curious have any of the gods in mythology created life itself? GOD created life, man, and woman from man.

23 posted on 12/23/2014 7:17:25 PM PST by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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...that statement seems to me Mary is consenting to God's plan.

If you ONLY look at THAT statement; perhaps.

"And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God."

The angel TOLD her what WAS going to happen.

Not once is there any indication Mary had any 'choice' in the matter.

32 posted on 12/24/2014 6:37:42 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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Why rape is so intrinsic to religion

I want to know why it is so intrinsic to the oligopolies of International Socialism, particularly the kind that involves young boys.

36 posted on 12/24/2014 10:06:02 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (Heteropatriarchal Capitalist)
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