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To: EinNYC
For you to claim that the desired result of education is a "lack of wisdom, virtue, self restraint..." is ludicrous

I claimed no such thing. You misunderstood what I said. Wisdom, virtue, self restraint, etc, are the desired character traits that we want to follow from all this "education". They are exactly what we are NOT getting.

I specifically said that teachers are not the problem per.se. I will say this: Teachers that are members of AFT or NEA yet disagree with the positions of these unions are sheeple and are doing it for the money, simple as that. I don't see teachers protesting their union bosses, administrators, and whatever other PTB that apparently force them to teach sodomy, moral relativism, and secular humanism.

Nevertheless.

24 posted on 12/14/2014 4:01:56 PM PST by ecomcon
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To: ecomcon

Teachers are not in a position to protest against their union bosses-—and then get hung out to dry when they need the union to represent them. Teachers are not in a position to protest against their administrators-—and then be brought up on charges of insubordination. Teachers, like other people, have mortgages to pay, children to support, and the other typical expenses of life. They need their jobs, the same as anyone else. I assure you I did not sign up to teach “sodomy, moral relativism and secular humanism”. I signed up to teach biology. I personally make it a point to present a good moral example, including my attire. I attempt to gently chide inappropriate dress or behavior, but there one is treading on thin ice, because the students have rights—and the teachers increasingly don’t. Students will tell you to your face, “I’m a gonna get you fired, b__ch!” Because they know they can. That is how screwed up things are now, at least in NYC’s public schools. The kids are running the schools and the teachers have to kowtow to them or lose their jobs.


25 posted on 12/14/2014 7:03:32 PM PST by EinNYC
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